Quite right! Lab leaks & spy scandals: was Cameron wrong about China?
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Oct 14, 2025 This discussion dives into Westminster's alarming espionage scandal and questions the government's handling of allegations against suspected spies for China. Tensions rise as they explore the influence of figures like Jonathan Powell and the shadow of New Labour's ethical dilemmas. The conversation shifts to Donald Trump's unexpected Gaza peace deal, which challenges traditional diplomacy. Finally, they reflect on the dark allure of the TV show 'The Traitors,' revealing insights into human nature and the traits of potential political contestants.
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Unexplained Collapse Of Spy Prosecution
- The dropped espionage case raises either concealment or staggering incompetence in government handling of China-related security breaches.
- Michael Gove argues the CPS wouldn't act without significant evidence, so the official explanation strains credibility.
Powell's Return Raises Questions
- Jonathan Powell's role as National Security Adviser invites suspicion given his Blairite past and involvement in controversial deals.
- Gove warns that political reaching for experienced figures risks morally compromising positions with regimes like China.
2010 China Trip: Surveillance Warnings
- Michael Gove recounts a 2010 China trip where delegation members were warned about phone and room surveillance and to smash gifted items.
- He also recalls a Chinese demand to remove poppies and David Cameron's blunt refusal, illustrating early tensions.
