Stephen Dowden, Professor of German language and literature, discusses his book on modernism and mimesis. They challenge the conventional understanding of Ulysses as the defining modernist work, explore irony and complexity in Joyce's work, and discuss the relationship between modernism and modernity. The podcast also explores Marcel Duchamp's painting 'Peace' and the frustration it invokes, delves into the journey of an artist, and discusses approaching art without limitations.
Modernism is not solely characterized by complexity, but also by simplicity and a focus on direct experience.
Modernism challenges the subject-object divide of modernity by aiming for a somatic, sensory experience of art.
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Modernism redefined: Challenging the complex elitist image
In this podcast episode, Steve Dowden discusses his book Modernism and Mimesis, which offers a new perspective on modernism in literature, art, and as a whole. The book challenges the prevailing notion that modernism is a complex, elitist movement, arguing instead that it is characterized by simplicity and a focus on the direct experience. Dowden questions why modernism is often associated with complexity when artists like Matisse created works that are visually uncomplicated. He also explores how the definition of modernism has been influenced by the limited focus on writers like Joyce and Pound, ignoring the broader European literature, music, architecture, and more. By examining the different understandings of language and its relationship to the world in works by Joyce and Kafka, Dowden argues that modernism is a rejection of Cartesian subjectivity and a move towards a more somatic, sensory experience of art. Ultimately, this episode challenges the conventional understanding of modernism and offers a fresh perspective on its aims and characteristics.
The tension between complexity and simplicity in modernist works
The podcast delves into the tension between complexity and simplicity in modernist works, particularly in literature. While works like Ulysses by James Joyce are often seen as exemplifying the complexity of modernism, Dowden argues that this one-sided understanding limits the scope of modernist art. Comparing Ulysses to Kafka's Castle, he highlights how these two works have opposing views of language and its power to express reality. Joyce's optimistic belief in language's ability to capture everything contrasts with Kafka's skepticism, which leads him to use strategic silences and figurative language. This distinction challenges the common notion that modernism is characterized solely by complexity and instead suggests that simplicity and a sense of leaving things unsaid play a significant role in modernist works.
Overcoming subjectivity and embracing the somatic experience of art
The podcast episode explores the shift from modernity to modernism and how it relates to the subject-object divide. Dowden suggests that modernity, characterized by Cartesian subjectivity, sets the stage for modernism's attempt to overcome this subject-object split. While modernity is rooted in subjectivity and the belief in the power of reason and language to label and control the world, modernism seeks to challenge these assumptions. Dowden argues that modernist art, including literature, aims to provide a more somatic, sensory experience, where the dichotomy between subject and object is dissolved. This shift is exemplified in the works of Kafka, Beckett, and other modernist artists who emphasize the limitations of language and the ineffable nature of human experience. By embracing the somatic experience of art, Dowden suggests that modernism offers an alternative to the self-consciousness and self-absorption of modernity.
A critique of the academic approach to art and literature
The podcast episode raises questions about the academic approach to art and literature, specifically in regards to literary theory and criticism. Dowden critiques the tendency to impose theories and doctrines on works of art, arguing that this approach often overrides the actual experience of engaging with the art. He advocates for a more open and intuitive approach to interpretation, drawing inspiration from thinkers like Susan Sontag and William Gass. Dowden suggests that readers and viewers should trust their own reactions and observations when approaching art, rather than relying solely on theoretical frameworks. He highlights the power of art to evoke sensory and emotional responses, emphasizing the importance of paying attention to these experiences without getting caught up in the confines of doctrines and predefined interpretations.
Steve Dowden is a Professor of German language and literature in the Department of German, Russian, and Asian Languages and Literatures. He graduated in 1984 from the University of California with a Ph.D in German literature. After a decade teaching at Yale and a year as a Humboldt Fellow at the University of Konstanz he joined the Brandeis faculty in 1994. Dowden has published on German literature, art, music, and intellectual history from the eighteenth to the twenty-first century. In this episode we discuss his book Modernism and Mimesis.
Book link: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-53134-8