#8 Julian Burnside: Defender, arts lover, raconteur

What will it take for us to give refugees a fair go? Julian Burnside QC has a few ideas. The barrister (and arts lover and storyteller and much more besides) has been fighting for better treatment for refugees for 15 years.He chatted to us recently about the value of listening to other people, why we should all support living artists and the piece of music that never fails to lift his soul.Mentioned in this podcast:*The Nauru Files: https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/nauru-files*The film, Downfall*Zero Degrees of Empathy by Simon Baron Cohen*Oxbridge Blues by Frederic Raphael*Beethoven's Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit (Holy song of thanksgiving of a convalescent to the Deity). The version featured in this podcast is by Philharmonia Quartet. Courtesy of Naxos. http://www.naxoslicensing.com/track/NDE3NTIwOC03YWIzYjE/

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