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The podcast episode features an interview with author Alfie Kohn, who discusses his book 'Punished by Rewards.' Kohn challenges the common belief that rewards and punishments are effective motivators, highlighting how they are both forms of control that undermine intrinsic motivation. He emphasizes that rewards and punishments are not opposites but rather two sides of the same coin. Kohn argues that rewards lead to temporary compliance but at a significant cost and can diminish a person's interest and quality of work over time. He suggests that organizations should focus on promoting content, collaboration, and choice to foster intrinsic motivation instead.