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NDEs, Neuroscience, and the Soul with Dr. Lee Warren

Sep 26, 2025
Dr. Lee Warren, a neurosurgeon and author with a background in trauma recovery and neurobiology, discusses the intriguing intersection of neuroscience and spirituality. He shares his profound journey from the battlefield to exploring near-death experiences after the loss of his son. The conversation dives into how neuroplasticity and epigenetics reveal our ability to reshape our minds and destinies. They also examine compelling evidence linking NDEs to spiritual truths, portraying a transformative view of healing and the enduring nature of the soul.
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INSIGHT

Thoughts Change Brain And Body

  • Thoughts (non-material events) trigger measurable brain activity and physiological change in real time.
  • Lee Warren concludes mind and brain are distinct because choices change brain activity rather than being wholly determined by it.
ANECDOTE

MRI Lab Moment That Shifted A Neurosurgeon

  • Lee Warren recounts watching fMRI scans where volunteers shift from worst to best memories and their brain and vitals change accordingly.
  • He says that spectacle convinced him the mind is not identical to the brain.
INSIGHT

Penfield Suggests Abstract Thought Is Beyond Brain

  • Wilder Penfield's awake-surgery findings showed seizures alter perceptions but never produce high-level abstract thought.
  • Warren interprets this as evidence that abstract thought originates beyond brain circuitry.
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