Inside the MAGA Movement on the Ground (w/ Isaac Arnsdorf)
Jul 1, 2024
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Isaac Arnsdorf investigates the MAGA movement from Arizona to Georgia, revealing Bannon's long game to reshape American institutions. The podcast delves into the origins of the movement, election denial, and de-radicalization strategies within the MAGA movement. It offers insights on how Trumpian politicians defeat 'establishment' Republicans and the role of Steve Bannon in revitalizing the party post-January 6th.
The MAGA movement draws on historical roots of right-wing American culture, fueling the belief in a stolen election myth.
Steve Bannon and key figures instill a sense of revolutionary vanguard, aiming to rebuild American institutions in the movement's image.
Deep dives
Understanding the MAGA Movement's Origins
The podcast delves into the origins of the MAGA movement, tracing it back to a historical continuity in American political culture. It highlights the belief that America is a right-wing country and the refusal to accept election results that contradict this notion. This stance eventually led to the stolen election myth, mainstreamed by Trump, to garner support from the party's fringe element.
Influence and Exploration of Beliefs
The discussion centers on key figures like Steve Bannon and their pivotal roles in shaping the movement. Bannon is portrayed as a sincere believer in the movement's narrative of a stolen election. The podcast explores the fine line between sincere belief and manipulation within the movement and its influence on reshaping Republican politics.
Organizational Strength and Election Strategy
Another focus is on the MAGA movement's strengthened organization within the Republican Party. The podcast highlights the structured apparatus backing the movement, contrasting it with previous campaigns. The discussion underscores the party's disciplined and organized approach and its potential impact on the upcoming elections.
Who actually comprises the MAGA movement? Where do Trumpian politicians come from? How do they defeat "establishment" Republicans on the local and state level? How much is organized from above? What's the role of Steve Bannon in all this? In Finish What We Started: The MAGA Movement's Ground War to End Democracy, Isaac Arnsdorf of the Washington Post investigates the MAGA movement around the country, from Arizona to Georgia, showing how ordinary people get sucked into it and how Bannon and others are part of a long game that aims to fundamentally alter American institutions. Arnsdorf's book offers vital insights for those concerned with stopping this movement in its tracks.
“Are we gonna have some losses?” [Bannon] said. “Fuck yes. We’re going to get fucking rolled. And we may get rolled today. But that’s OK. At every defeat, there’s enough seeds of other victories that are there. People just gotta stay on it, understand that we’re winning more than we’re losing. That’s why—a revolutionary vanguard. This has happened before in human history, right? We have to take over and we have to rebuild it. Remember, it’s a Fourth Turning. ... That’s all to come. I’ve got a task and purpose. That’s for others behind me and others that are at the vanguard of taking this on and tearing it down to rebuild. It will have to be rebuilt. That’s gonna be huge. We’re not going to be rebuilding any time in the foreseeable future. We’re going to be taking things apart. They say Trump’s a divider. This is what I keep saying on the show—what’s my mantra? One side’s going to win, and one side’s going to lose. No compromise here” - Steve Bannon, quoted in Isaac Arnsdorf, Finish What We Started
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