Safeguarding The Sacredness of Psychedelics Against Profit-Driven Industrialization | Martijn Schirp

Jun 17, 2022

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Martijn Schirp of Synthesis Institute joins us on Adventures Through The Mind to wonder with us about the potential harms that will come from the profit-driven industrialization of psychedelics and psychedelic therapy; how we might safeguard the sacredness of psychedelics and people seeking psychedelic therapy against those harms; and where and how he sees Synthesis Institute as attempting to do so.

We also talk about cultural maturity; the systemic issues that lead to broad-sweeping ill-health amongst modern people; why no, it’s not “just business”; psychedelics’ role in helping us to learn to be better people in uncertain times; indigenous issues, and our personal sense of where we land in the long history of colonial harms; and why choosing love ain’t easy, but well worth it.

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Episode Breakdown

(0:00) Opening
(1:59) Overture
(4:28) Guest bio
(640) Support the show
(7:29) Interview begins
(7:48) What is (and what inspired) the Synthesis psychedelic retreat centre?
(12:39) The complex legality of psychedelics (psilocybin) in the Netherlands
(18:53) The impact of capital on the psychedelic space/industry
(26:42) How profit-driven management will impact people undergoing psychedelic therapy
(36:08) What is the proper container for holding the full depth of learning present in learning to institutionalize psychedelic therapy?
(38:08 ) Psychedelics’ role in being better people in uncertain times
(43:14) Further possible issues of psychedelic underground therapy in the growing industrialization of psychedelics
(46:01) Psychedelic therapy is expensive; who’s gonna pay for it?
(53:44) Cultural maturation | It’s safer to critique than to do the work
(58:28 ) Choose love. It ain’t easy, it’s but well worth it.
(1:02:06) Safeguarding the sacred through Steward Ownership
(1:10:53) How might Synthesis’ move to steward ownership positively impact the larger psychedelic space
(1:14:51) Why work towards greater ethics as a company, even though it might not succeed financially
(1:22:44) No, it’s not “just business”; how you use money is a reflection of who you are
(1:26:21) What is making us sick? | Systemic institutional change is needed to optimize psychedelic healing
(1:33:56) Addressing these questions in the context of indigenous issues
(1:43:02) Wondering about our place in the long history of colonialism
(1:48:20) Is the shadow of historical displacement and ancestral disconnection at the root of white nationalism?
(1:52:52) Compassionately wondering about the psychological impact of widespread displacement from heritage amongst Western people
(2:01:31) Information about Synthesis’ facilitator training course
(2:06:18) Synthesis’ new psychedelic retreat centre in Oregon, USA
(2:08:16) Follow up links
(2:11:20) Outro

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