"I think there are times of discouragement for me, of just feeling unseen and completely off the radar.

It's like you're just doing the thing faithfully. And it's having a profoundly fruitful impact, right? The fruit is so obvious and tangible, and sometimes I'm feeling like no one sees it.

How do you process those discouragements? How do you keep going?"

Sometimes, ministry is a thankless calling. On this episode, Pastors Duke, Russ, and Glenn have an honest conversation about battling discouragement in ministry.

They discuss the loneliness of leadership, the importance of life balance, and strategies like cognitive behavioral therapy for combatting distorted thinking patterns that lead to discouragement. And then all of a sudden Glenn drops the mic with the phrase "liturgy of survival," and it's game over, he won the discussion.

Till We Feast is:

• Glenn Hoburg, Pastor of Grace DC Downtown
• Duke Kwon, Pastor of Grace DC Meridian Hill and author of Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance & Repair
• Russ Whitfield, Pastor of Grace Mosaic and the Director of Cross-Cultural Advancement for Reformed University Fellowship

Till We Feast is produced by Area Code Audio.