

7: Iliad book XXII
Nov 1, 2017
The discussion kicks off with a light-hearted take on summer celebrations, highlighting the contrasts between the 4th of July and Canada Day. The speakers dive into Achilles' emotional turmoil in the Iliad, focusing on themes of honor, glory, and the aftermath of Patroclus' death. They ponder the choice between seeking fame and finding peace in anonymity, drawing on rich historical contexts. This engaging dialogue blends serious reflections with personal anecdotes, making ancient narratives accessible and relatable.
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4th of July Confusion
- Graham Donaldson found it strange to celebrate American Independence Day as a Canadian.
- He realized he lacked knowledge about the war and wanted to learn more about American history.
Festive Learning
- AJ Hanenberg has become more festive with holidays through studying classical education and learning.
- He finds value in liturgies, celebrations, and aligning emotions with reality.
Iliad's Timeline and Achilles' Choice
- The Iliad occurs near the end of the Trojan War, around the ninth or tenth year.
- Achilles' choice is between glory and death, or anonymity and a long life.