Pam Snow is Professor of Cognitive Psychology at La Trobe University in Victoria, Australia. In this episode, she talks to Greg Ashman about her new role in bringing cognitive science to teacher education students and her earlier research into the oral language competency of young people in the youth justice system, before Greg and Pam discuss literacy in general, so-called 'balanced literacy' and what motivated Pam to write a book with Caroline Bowen dissecting 'neuroflapdoodle'.