

Debate Between An Orthodox & Barlaamite (R Catholic) - St. Gregory Palamas (Half) Jay Dyer
Sep 29, 2025
Dive into a spirited debate exploring the nuances between Orthodox and Roman Catholic theology. Discover how the concept of divine simplicity influences Christology and sacramental views. Jay dissects the crucial distinction between uncreated grace and created effects, sparking conversations about the nature of the Eucharist and theosis. Engage with historical heresies and their relevance today, as well as the implications of Hellenic philosophy on Western theology. Listener questions add another layer, weaving personal reflections into the theological discourse.
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Simplicity Shapes Whole Theological System
- Jay Dyer argues Roman Catholic divine simplicity shapes wide theological outcomes beyond abstract propositions.
- He links that doctrine to Christology, sacraments, the beatific vision, and anthropology as systemic consequences.
Palamas Debate Marks East–West Split
- Dyer says the Palamas–Barlaam debate shows a decisive East–West development in theology.
- He claims Rome adopted the Barlaamite path, making grace a created supernatural effect in its dogma.
Uncreated Grace vs Created Grace
- St. Gregory Palamas contrasts uncreated grace with the Latin view of grace as a created supernatural thing.
- Dyer highlights Ludwig Ott and Trent as sources showing Roman dogma treats grace as created.