Les and I discuss a group started by Les called OPUS, the Organization for Paranormal Understanding and Support came about to help people with their paranormal experiences and the paranormal phenomenon of Alien Contact and the physiological and psychological characteristics along with the latest UAP information presented by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

We also discuss his new book The Unknown Other: and the Existential Proposition of Alien Contact. The book is at 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B099R218QP/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0

Grant's Links are at 

https://linktr.ee/whitehouseufo