The Hidden Third Jeffrey Epstein Survivor | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Dec 3, 2025
Lisa Phillips, a survivor and advocate, shares her harrowing experience with Jeffrey Epstein and her journey toward healing. She discusses the grooming tactics used by Epstein, how he manipulated victims through emotional connections, and her confrontation with him. Lisa also sheds light on the troubling dynamics of modeling agencies and trafficking networks. Her powerful testimony on Capitol Hill aims to empower other survivors, and she reflects on the importance of accountability and her ongoing advocacy work, including her upcoming memoir.
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From Pageants To New York Modeling
- Lisa Phillips describes a privileged, globe-trotting childhood that led her into modeling and acting ambitions.
- She moved to New York at 17–18 and worked hard to build a modeling career before meeting Jeffrey Epstein.
Island Invitation After A Shoot
- Lisa recounts traveling to Tortola for a magazine shoot and being invited to Jeffrey Epstein's island by another model.
- She felt safe at first and noticed many young blonde girls and older men around the property.
Grooming Through Mentorship
- Grooming often starts with emotional connection and mentorship rather than overt sexuality.
- Lisa explains Epstein used deep personal conversations to make victims feel valued and safe before abuse.