One of 80,000 Hours' main services is our free one-on-one careers advising, which we provide to around 1,000 people a year. Today we speak to two of our advisors, who have each spoken to hundreds of people -- including many regular listeners to this show -- about how they might be able to do more good while also having a highly motivating career.

Before joining 80,000 Hours, Michelle Hutchinson completed a PhD in Philosophy at Oxford University and helped launch Oxford's Global Priorities Institute, while Habiba Islam studied politics, philosophy, and economics at Oxford University and qualified as a barrister.

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In this conversation, they cover many topics that recur in their advising calls, and what they've learned from watching advisees’ careers play out:

• What they say when advisees want to help solve overpopulation
• How to balance doing good against other priorities that people have for their lives
• Why it's challenging to motivate yourself to focus on the long-term future of humanity, and how Michelle and Habiba do so nonetheless
• How they use our latest guide to planning your career
• Why you can specialise and take more risk if you're in a group
• Gaps in the effective altruism community it would be really useful for people to fill
• Stories of people who have spoken to 80,000 Hours and changed their career — and whether it went well or not
• Why trying to have impact in multiple different ways can be a mistake

The episode is split into two parts: the first section on The 80,000 Hours Podcast, and the second on our new show 80k After Hours. This is a shameless attempt to encourage listeners to our first show to subscribe to our second feed.

That second part covers:

• Whether just encouraging someone young to aspire to more than they currently are is one of the most impactful ways to spend half an hour
• How much impact the one-on-one team has, the biggest challenges they face as a group, and different paths they could have gone down
• Whether giving general advice is a doomed enterprise

Chapters:

Rob’s intro (00:00:00)
The interview begins (00:02:24)
Cause prioritization (00:09:14)
Unexpected outcomes from 1-1 advice (00:18:10)
Making time for thinking about these things (00:22:28)
Balancing different priorities in life (00:26:54)
Gaps in the effective altruism space (00:32:06)
Plan change vignettes (00:37:49)
How large a role the 1-1 team is playing (00:49:04)
What about when our advice didn’t work out? (00:55:50)
The process of planning a career (00:59:05)
Why longtermism is hard (01:05:49)

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Producer: Keiran Harris
Audio mastering: Ben Cordell
Transcriptions: Katy Moore

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