What Area 51 can teach us about the drones in NJ (with Dylan Thuras)
Feb 5, 2025
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In this engaging discussion, Dylan Thuras, co-founder of Atlas Obscura, delves into America's fascination with conspiracy theories, using Area 51 as a backdrop. He explores the recent drone sightings in New Jersey and how they mirror past public panics. The conversation shifts to the absurd cultural phenomenon of 'Storm Area 51,' highlighting the intersection of internet humor and real-world consequences. With humor and insight, Dylan examines how misinformation twists our perceptions, connecting historical events to the ongoing intrigue surrounding UFOs.
The podcast explores how societal reactions to mysterious phenomena, like the New Jersey drone sightings, often lead to elaborate conspiracy theories and public hysteria.
Dylan Thuras discusses how social media platforms, particularly Facebook, amplify and perpetuate conspiracy theories by fostering communities around shared skepticism and events.
The conversation highlights how cultural phenomena, like the viral 'Storm Area 51' event, exemplify the absurd interplay between internet humor, activism, and collective curiosity about the unknown.
Deep dives
The Drone Panic in New Jersey
The podcast discusses a recent drone panic in New Jersey, highlighting how hundreds of drones have been spotted flying across the skies. This incident is likened to previous panic events, such as the windshield pitting panic of the 1950s. In the 1950s, tiny dents on windshields led to wild theories ranging from nuclear fallout to cosmic rays, but ultimately it turned out to be a normal occurrence. The podcast emphasizes how the public's reaction to unusual sightings often leads to elaborate conspiracy theories, demonstrating a pattern of societal concern over the unknown.
The Role of Social Media in Conspiracy Culture
The conversation addresses how social media fuels modern conspiracy theories, particularly surrounding the mystery of drones and unidentified flying objects. A group on Facebook dedicated to the New Jersey Mystery Drones has amassed over 73,000 members, showcasing the public's desire to unravel the enigma. The narratives spun in online forums often intersect with recent events, such as a high-profile murder case, leading to far-fetched theories like government operations or even extraterrestrial involvement. This interplay between real events and speculative narratives exemplifies how the internet shapes our understanding and suspicion of governmental actions.
The History and Mystique of Area 51
The podcast delves into the history of Area 51, tracing its roots back to the mid-20th century amidst a backdrop of secret military operations and aerospace advancements. Established in 1955, Area 51 initially served as a testing ground for high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, particularly the U-2 Spy Plane. While the base was once a well-guarded secret, its association with conspiracy theories and alien encounters has made it a focal point of American folklore. The enduring fascination with Area 51 highlights a broader cultural obsession with the interplay between government secrecy and public curiosity about the unknown.
Cultural Moments and Internet Humor
The podcast recounts the viral phenomenon surrounding the 'Storm Area 51' event that emerged in 2019, reflecting Gen Z's unique relationship with internet humor and activism. Originally a joke, plans to storm the military base led to a massive online movement, showcasing how memes can morph into real-world events with unforeseen consequences. This moment is described as a collision of cultural references, internet memes, and a collective yearning for connection, illustrating the hybrid nature of modern discourse. The chaotic attempts to organize such an event only served to amplify the absurdity and unpredictability contained within online community dynamics.
The Dichotomy of Conspiracy Theories
The podcast emphasizes the dual nature of conspiracy theories as both entertaining and potentially harmful, complicating the public's perception of the truth. On one hand, conspiracy theories provide an outlet for skepticism towards government actions, yet they can also distract from significant issues. This tension is examined through examples like the alleged storming of Area 51, which brought real attention to a long-standing cultural obsession but ended with minimal attendance. The discussion concludes by illustrating how conspiracy theories evolve over time, driven by cultural contexts and societal fears, leading to a continuous cycle of panic and curiosity.
Americans love not believing anything the government tells us, and it seems likely we’ll just keep coming up with stories to explain what is probably really boring in real life. The latest of these is the mysterious drones that descended upon New Jersey and then vanished without a trace. Dylan Thuras joins us to shed light on Americans’ love of conspiracy theories, which naturally begins with Area 51.
Our guest Dylan Thuras is the co-founder of Atlas Obscura. Follow his work at https://www.atlasobscura.com/users/dylan, and you can hear more of his stories on the Atlas Obscura Podcast wherever you listen to ‘em.
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