The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

169. An Atheist in the Realm of Myth | Stephen Fry

May 17, 2021
In a captivating dialogue, Stephen Fry, a multi-talented British actor and intellectual, explores the intersections of atheism, mythology, and culture. He discusses the relevance of ancient myths in addressing modern cruelties and polarizing societal divides. The conversation delves into the contrasts between rationalism and empiricism, and the enduring power of narratives in shaping human understanding. Fry also critiques conventional ideologies, reflects on the intricacies of faith amidst suffering, and emphasizes the transformative role of storytelling in connecting us all.
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INSIGHT

Drama and Truth

  • Dramatic accounts offer valuable truth, intertwining with religious narratives.
  • Stephen Fry, despite being an atheist, values the power of drama and myth.
ANECDOTE

Semmelweis and Handwashing

  • Ignaz Semmelweis, by experimenting, reduced childbirth deaths by handwashing.
  • Despite his empirical success, he was sent to a mental institution because his findings defied reason.
INSIGHT

Narrative in Culture

  • Culture needs narrative structures, even in science, to make knowledge applicable.
  • Jung's analysis of science emerging from alchemy highlights the importance of narrative.
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