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(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ James Fox returns for the third time on Julian Dorey Podcast to discuss his latest Documentary, "The Program" which goes behind the Congressional hearings to leave skeptics astounded by new assertions from a growing chorus

of high-level insiders who insist there is definitive proof we are not alone.

Jason Sands is a new UFO whistleblower, who has recently come forward with claims about his involvement in a 20-year black budget program and a surreal Alien encounter.

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OTHER JDP EPISODES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

- Episode 138 - James Fox: https://youtu.be/XA7ElUfOkd0

- Episode 139 - James Fox: https://youtu.be/4rrHV3Kczx0

- Episode 145 - Michio Kaku: https://youtu.be/IQN6_xY9TAM

- Episode 151 - Ron James: https://youtu.be/PGBWaHLK9cY

- Episode 173 - Brian Keating: https://youtu.be/R0G7WUqHwqw

- Episode 179 - Nick Pope: https://youtu.be/uDS3ahkAXdA

- Episode 180 - Lawrence Krauss: https://youtu.be/AZdbBXFqQYw

- Episode 207 - Darcy Weir: https://youtu.be/7PZAh4BzZSM

****TIMESTAMPS****

0:00 - Jason’s Traumatic Childhood, Father’s Abuse

16:11 - Jason tells dad to divorce, Living with Dad, Dealing with Trauma

26:32 - Opening Up with Mom About Trauma (Severe PT5D)

37:09 - Joining Air Force & Working Up Ladder

45:58 - Jason’s job in Air Force, Moving to Nevada & New Training

56:59 - Jason’s 1st UFO Sighting

1:04:51 - Area 51 (Red Flag Exercise), Polygraph Test, Strange Trip to Groom Lake

1:13:25 - Mentioning of UFO by Commander, Bob Lazar Story, 1st Mission

1:26:05 - Leaked 1994 Nellis UFO Footage

1:38:04 - Alien Encounter Story

1:53:17 - Post-Alien Encounter

2:06:24 - Interview with Congressional Individuals in SCIF’s

2:14:35 - James Connecting Jason Sands

2:23:52 - Assassination of Alien Issue

2:44:25 - Julian’s Thoughts on Jason Sands

2:50:40 - Disclosure Needs

CREDITS:

- Host, Producer, and Editor: Julian Dorey

- In-Studio Producer: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ

Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 267 - Jason Sands & James Fox

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