Dennis DeBusschere: 22V’s Investing Playbook, Victory & Volatility

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Jun 11, 2025

Dennis DeBusschere, founder and chief market strategist of 22V Research, offers a deep dive into the current economic landscape. He discusses the resilience of large cap tech stocks amid volatility and the risks associated with tariffs and rising bond yields. Dennis emphasizes the Fed's policies and US debt, while exploring the interconnections of fiscal stimulus and market performance. Notably, he introduces his 'fire and ice regime' approach tailored for adapting to shifting economic conditions, alongside insights on small caps and alternative assets.

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Defensive Positioning Amid Growth

Investors remain defensive, favoring growth momentum and quality factors while avoiding economically sensitive sectors.
Economic growth is holding up better than expected, supporting an "everything rally" including small caps and junk debt for now.

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Fed Welcomes Slowdown

The Fed will welcome a slowdown to keep inflation and expectations in check, maintaining restrictive rates for 8-12 months.
Inflation due to tariffs will keep core inflation above target, slowing GDP growth below 2%.

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Yield Levels Restrict Economy

Higher 10-year yields will keep certain economy areas like housing and lower-income consumers weak to contain inflation.
The Fed aims for below-trend growth to prevent inflation from rising too much despite private sector growth.

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Danny Moses talks with Dennis DeBusschere, founder and chief market strategist of 22V Research. They discuss various economic indicators, the state of large cap tech stocks, and the risks posed by tariffs and rising 10-year bond yields. Dennis shares insights on the Fed's stance, US debt, private credit, energy sector, and gold. The conversation covers the complex dynamics between fiscal stimulus, the Fed's monetary policy, and their implications for market performance. Specific attention is given to the influence of long-term yields on different market segments, particularly small caps and economically sensitive sectors. Dennis also outlines how his 'fire and ice regime' adapts to these economic conditions.--
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