In this episode, two the world’s leading competition experts, William Baer and Frederic Jenny, have a one-on-one conversation about key issues in the international competition arena that should be front and center on the enforcement and policy radar screens. The exchange took place at AAI’s 22nd annual policy conference in June 2021. AAI is delighted to provide access to it on Ruled by Reason. Baer and Jenny cover topics ranging from legislative and institutional responses to big tech concerns, to the intersection of antitrust and regulation, substantive and procedural convergence, competition policy versus industrial policy, and incorporation of “non-competition” values into competition law. The unique perspective revealed in their conversation comes at a critical time, where concerns over declining competition and concentrated market power are high on the enforcement and policy agendas of enforcement authorities across the globe.