#218 - Mexican Cartels Just Hijacked Military Spy Technology | Luis Chaparro
Jan 8, 2024
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Luis Chaparro, an investigative journalist covering narcos & drug cartels, discusses the involvement of Felix Rodriguez, the rise of fentanyl, control of government surveillance by cartels, personal security protocols, aging and cellular health, testifying against El Chapo, frustrations of freelance journalism, controversial military operations, El Mayo's reach, the dark world of cartels, vulnerabilities of mobile phone companies, and the shady world of surveillance technology.
Mexican cartels have evolved into multinational criminal empires with diverse revenue streams beyond drug trafficking.
The Mexican government and cartels are closely intertwined, with criminal organizations influencing politics and even eliminating political rivals.
The speaker emphasizes the importance of building rapport and treating interviewees with respect to have productive conversations in journalism.
The podcast discusses the misuse of powerful surveillance technology by Mexican cartels and corrupt officials for various illegal activities.
Deep dives
The Complex Dynamics of Mexican Cartels
Mexican cartels have evolved into multinational criminal empires with diversified revenue streams, including drugs, extortion, kidnapping, and corruption. The power dynamics and factions within the cartels are ever-changing, making it difficult to identify clear boundaries or classify them as simple drug cartels. The criminal organizations work side by side with the Mexican government, influencing politics and even eliminating political rivals. The two main cartels at the moment are the Sinaloa Cartel and the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion, but there are numerous smaller factions and criminal organizations throughout Mexico with their own territories and areas of control. The cartels are involved in various illegal activities beyond drug trafficking, such as monopolizing resources, human trafficking, and extortion. The Mexican government's response to these criminal organizations has often been inadequate, leading to further violence and instability.
Damaso's interview and hotel meeting
During the podcast episode, the speaker recounts their meeting with a person named Damaso in a hotel room. They initially planned to meet in the lobby but changed the plan and met on the street. They observed DEA agents around and discussed how Damaso had a lot of cash handled by another individual. They then had breakfast together at a waffle house before retreating to the hotel room.
Javier Valdez's case and the Mexican government's involvement
The speaker and the person they interviewed discussed the accusations against Damaso for killing journalist Javier Valdez. They mentioned that the Mexican government was involved and trying to extradite Damaso to Mexico for trial. There was a discussion about whether the Mexican government truly cared about justice or if there were other motives, possibly involving rival cartels.
The interview and finding common ground
The speaker shared their approach to interviews, explaining the importance of building a rapport and finding common ground with sources. They emphasized treating the interviewee with respect and being open to hearing their side of the story, regardless of personal opinions or judgments. The goal is to have a productive conversation while maintaining objectivity in reporting.
Publication plans and challenges
The speaker discussed the challenges they faced in finding the right publication for the Damazo interview. They mentioned pitching the story to several outlets and dealing with issues of communication, lack of response, and financial offers. Ultimately, they decided to publish the story independently on their YouTube channel and collaborate with another journalist to provide additional insights and context through an interview.
Main Idea 1
The podcast episode delves into the life and activities of a notorious individual who gained a massive Instagram following by flaunting his luxury lifestyle, including cars, watches, and weapons. The podcast host discusses his unsuccessful attempt to secure an interview with this individual, highlighting the dangerous world he operates in and the influence of Mexican cartels on social media.
Main Idea 2
The podcast episode explores the emergence of a powerful software called Titan, which is being used by Mexican cartels and corrupt officials to access and manipulate sensitive databases. The software allows users to track individuals, obtain personal information, and even live monitor their locations. The host presents alarming evidence of how this technology is being misused, including its involvement in human smuggling and the sale of illegal items on WhatsApp groups.
Main Idea 3
The podcast episode reveals the extent to which Mexican cartels are profiting from human smuggling across the border and highlights the flaws in deterrence policies. Smuggling people has become more lucrative for cartels than drug trafficking. The host discusses the financial incentives and risks associated with human smuggling, emphasizing the role of corporate America in benefiting from cheap labor and maintaining a system that exploits undocumented workers.
Watch the next episode early: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Luis Chaparro is an investigative journalist moving between the border of Texas and Mexico covering narcos & drug cartels. EPISODE LINKS https://lchaparro.com https://youtube.com/@luischaparro https://instagram.com/luiskuryaki SPONSORS https://ketobrainz.com/pages/djp - Use code "DANNY20" at checkout. https://ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY to save 15% on your order. FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny https://twitter.com/jonesdanny 00:00 - Luis on Felix Rodriguez 09:46 - What is the Cartel dynamic in Mexico now? 12:36 - Cartel propaganda in US media 16:49 - Catrel corporate structure 25:43 - Ancient Mayan artifacts 26:55 - Cartel exploitation of fishing trade 33:01 - Cartel guacomole war during Superbowl 37:02 - Farmers fighting cartels 39:06 - Damaso Lopez Serrano (El Mini Lic) 48:20 - Luis' crazy DM list 53:31 - How El Mini Lic contacted Luis 01:04:52 - El Mini Lic wealth 01:08:59 - Luis' 12 hr interview w/ El Mini Lic 01:17:01 - How El Mini Lic became a cartel leader 01:19:51 - El Mini Lic relationship w/ El Chapo 01:28:19 - Vice News bankrupcy 01:33:09 - Publishing the Cartel stories independently 01:40:26 - Los Chapitos requests to buy information from Luis 01:47:59 - Extradition of Ovideo Guzman 01:58:19 - Why does the USA want to extradite prisoners out of Mexico? 02:02:11 - Cartel connection to CIA 02:05:24 - El Plaga (the plague) 02:10:20 - Luis' video interview with El Plaga 02:12:10 - How El Plaga escaped prison 02:19:36 - How cartels recruit young kids as hit men 02:23:32 - Luis' goal is to illustrate the killers, not their idolized lifestyle 02:26:30 - TITAN spy software that Mexian Cartels are using 02:31:12 - Mexican Cartels can live track your cellphone 02:36:09 - Mexican Government selling technology to Cartels 02:43:00 - Cartels making more money smuggling people than cocaine 02:49:19 - Immigrants vs White people working and GDP 02:55:14 - Cartel development over the next 5 years?