The A to Z English Podcast The Jack & 'Chill Podcast 5 | Merry Christmas!
In this episode of Jack & 'Chill, the two answer some Christmas related "this one" or "that one" questions. Then they talk about some annoying holiday traditions. After that, they discuss The Grinch. Finally, they share what makes their hearts grow three sizes.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Xochitl
You are listening to the Jack and Chill podcast alright, Jack. For this episode of Jack and Chill I have a fun game of this or that which for viewers.
00:00:20
Xochitl
Means that I will ask Jack whether he would prefer one option or a second option and he will tell me which one he prefers and then I will also answer.
00:00:30
Xochitl
So Jack, do you prefer fruit cake, which is a holiday dessert that is kind of unpopular in the US? It's basically a kind of like a loaf of cake with candied fruits incorporated into it. Or ambrosia salad, which is a creamy.
00:00:50
Xochitl
Sweet salad with several different types of fruit and fruit flavored marshmallows in it.
00:00:59
Jack
Yeah. You know, when I was a kid, I would have said ambrosia salad. I would prefer that because it's kind of the texture is kind of like it's kind of like jello jello or, you know, kind of a Jelly.
00:01:14
Xochitl
Yeah, like a sweet whipped.
00:01:16
Jack
Yes, sweet whipped, very light. It's it's you.
00:01:20
Jack
You know the expression.
00:01:21
Jack
There's always room for Jello, you know? So at the end of of a big meal, you could still eat a little bit of ambrosia salad and it's not going to fill you up too much. And it's sweet, but now I've I think it's disgusting. It's way too sweet. It's just.
00:01:40
Jack
I would rather have a a slice of fruitcake.
00:01:43
Jack
To be honest.
00:01:45
Jack
I don't mind fruitcake that much. I mean, I know that it's it's not my favorite dessert, but it's got some nuts in it. It's got some.
00:01:56
Jack
A little bit of candied fruit and a little bit of cake, so you know it's not. It's not too much, it's it doesn't overload the senses like ambrosia salad does.
00:02:10
Jack
I don't know. What do you think?
00:02:12
Xochitl
Uhm, I never liked ambrosia salad, even as a kid I had kind of weird taste buds, like I prefer dark chocolate over milk chocolate. Even from being a little child and.
00:02:23
Xochitl
I I would drink.
00:02:23
Jack
Yeah, that's sophisticated.
00:02:25
Xochitl
Black Coffee, also as a child, is the Mexico kids drink coffee. I had. I did add some sugar into it, but I wouldn't put any milk and I didn't like it. Very sweet because I like the like kind of bitter flavor profile.
00:02:40
Xochitl
So I always had weird taste buds and.
00:02:42
Xochitl
I hated hamburger salad. It was just horrible and I would say I would pick fruit cake even though as a kid I also didn't like the texture of like the candied fruits, raisins and like nuts in it.
00:02:54
Xochitl
I would pick. I would pick those out, but now as an adult, I think I could just eat the whole thing. I think with like a coffee.
00:03:00
Xochitl
Be or like a.
00:03:04
Xochitl
One chip which we make in Mexico, which is like the hot.
00:03:06
Xochitl
Fruit punch. Drink, I think.
00:03:07
Xochitl
That it would be tolerable.
00:03:10
Jack
Yeah, I would.
00:03:11
Jack
I would be right now I would be very satisfied with a slice of fruit cake and a a latte.
00:03:18
Jack
Like that would be. That would be nice like with my neck but a.
00:03:22
Xochitl
I'll be hitting on Jack.
00:03:22
Jack
Like a bowl.
00:03:23
Jack
Of a bowl of marshmallows with you know, Jello and whip and whipped cream does not.
00:03:27
Xochitl
With green.
00:03:30
Jack
It doesn't sound good to me. It's just a. Yeah, it's nasty.
00:03:35
Xochitl
Right now, yeah, I can't imagine it would be, like, hard to get a spoon down and then with the food cake, it's like, yeah, I could do it. You know, I I wouldn't mind, actually. Yeah.
00:03:44
Xochitl
I got you. All right, Jack, for next one. Do you prefer eggnog or hot chocolate?
00:03:50
Jack
Yeah, I know we're going to have a a bitter argument about this one, but I love.
00:03:56
Jack
I love it.
00:03:56
Xochitl
You know what? I've come around to eggnog.
00:03:59
Xochitl
I'll let you finish, but I'll let you finish.
00:03:59
Jack
Oh, OK. Yeah. I'm a big eggnog fan. My dad used to buy because they only sold it seasonally. And where I go.
00:04:09
Xochitl
Uh-huh. It's still only sold seasonally.
00:04:11
Jack
Yeah, and it was. My dad used to buy one called Holly Nog. That was like the name of the company and dog. It was just like you. Like a milk carton, but instead out came this, like, think. I don't know how to describe. It's so thick. Like it's just thick, thick.
00:04:17
Xochitl
So I yeah.
00:04:31
Jack
Like and a thick liquid and and you drink it cold and it's not milk, but it's kind of it's Milky.
00:04:40
Xochitl
It's kind of.
00:04:40
Xochitl
Like a custard, like a liquid custard.
00:04:43
Jack
Yeah, exactly. It's very much like a liquid custard, but I.
00:04:47
Xochitl
In fact it is. It has eggs very good.
00:04:47
발표자
Always found.
00:04:50
Jack
Yeah. Well, I just like to take, like, a coffee cup with a half a coffee, coffee cup of eggnog, and. And it's so heavy. And it's so rich that you could just take little sips. And it feels like you're taking a whole bite of some kind of dessert. It's like drinking a dessert based.
00:05:10
Jack
Am I? I know the calories.
00:05:12
Jack
In there have to be astronomical like.
00:05:14
Xochitl
Ohh it's bad because I had like it said for like 4 oz. It's like over 200 calories and I definitely have like 2.
00:05:21
Xochitl
8 oz cups today so I I just found like 800 calories of.
00:05:26
Xochitl
The eggnog in one day.
00:05:30
Jack
I mean, I could drink a whole carton of it, to be honest. Like I I tried to make it once even and it didn't turn out too well. I put too much vanilla extract in it and it made my throat hurt.
00:05:40
Xochitl
Oh yeah.
00:05:44
Jack
So yeah, it can. It burned, but I you know, I love. I love eggnog and I'm not. I'm not a big hot chocolate drinker. I just don't. I've got a bunch in my house and it just expires because no one drinks it.
00:05:44
Xochitl
Ohh burn.
00:05:58
Xochitl
Is it like the Swiss news type that you have though, like the instant hot cocoa?
00:06:02
Jack
Yeah, it's not like real. It's not real hot chocolate. It's just the the exactly, it's the powder.
00:06:04
발표자
That's what.
00:06:09
Jack
That you mix with hot.
00:06:10
Jack
Warm milk or or water if you.
00:06:14
Jack
I think the water, it tastes the worst. You know, if you mix it with milk.
00:06:17
Xochitl
Yeah, but if you hate yourself.
00:06:19
Xochitl
And drink it with water.
00:06:20
Jack
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's just it's just sugar water and it's really gross. But with milk it it's it's a little bit better. I just, I just don't like to get my calories from drinks. Usually. Yeah, unless, you know, I do, I do drink milk, but I drink it with my coffee.
00:06:41
Jack
Cause I love ice lattes, so I will drink. You know, a lot of coffee with with milk.
00:06:42
발표자
Right.
00:06:50
Xochitl
But it's like a splash.
00:06:51
Xochitl
Of milk in your coffee. Not like.
00:06:53
Jack
Ohh no, I drink like full actually I I just lied to you. I drink a lot of calories. Uh, actually if you count milk because I'll put like I'll make a really strong like 3 espresso shots and then fill up a cup with ice and then the rest is milk. It's probably it's only half a cup of milk. It's because there's so much ice.
00:07:14
Jack
Dinner but.
00:07:15
Xochitl
Right.
00:07:16
Jack
I'll drink those. Like I'll drink like two or three.
00:07:18
Jack
A day because.
00:07:19
Xochitl
OK, but that but milk does have some nutritional value. You're not really getting sugar like sugar calories for that, which is something I do admire because I definitely drink a lot of my calories lately. I mean, I had a full I have like a 16 ounce coke and.
00:07:36
Xochitl
28 oz cups of eggnogs just today, so I definitely drink my calories. I try.
00:07:41
발표자
Yeah. Yeah. Well.
00:07:42
Xochitl
To be more mindful that in the new.
00:07:43
Jack
Year it's so it's so easy to do and I mean I do. I do sometimes drink calories too because like I said, I I drink, I drink milk and.
00:07:56
Jack
And but I you know I.
00:07:57
Jack
Drink diet soda sometimes. So that's, you know, got its own problems related to it so.
00:08:06
Jack
I'm I'm by no means like Mr. healthy.
00:08:09
Jack
Over here on my high horse, you know?
00:08:12
Xochitl
You know, I as I've gotten older, I have come around to eggnog, so it's not the horrible choice I would have vilified you for before, but I don't like the like the Holly nod. Like I don't like the brand that you're talking about. It tastes. There's, like, a really strong nutmeg flavor to that brand that's like overpowering.
00:08:32
Xochitl
And it's like too thick and too sweet.
00:08:35
Xochitl
And and I like when I was younger, I used to prefer silk, not like the the the I guess vegan option that was made with soy milk because it was thinner.
00:08:51
Xochitl
And it wasn't so thick. It was like a texture thing, and it had less of a really intense, like eggy and not Maggie type of flavor. So I put, I would ask my parents to purchase some milk. Not is what I would drink. I would not drink the regular eggnog because it was.
00:08:59
Jack
OK.
00:09:06
Xochitl
Nasty because.
00:09:06
Xochitl
It was like thick and.
00:09:08
Xochitl
My sister really loved.
00:09:10
Xochitl
Eggnog and I just was never a fan.
00:09:13
Xochitl
And in recent.
00:09:14
Xochitl
Years I've actually come around to it. Only specific brands I like. There's a brand here in Iowa called Kelowna, Supernatural, and it's like an organic, I guess, milk, but it's like the eggnog is pretty thin and it has like cinnamon and stuff in it.
00:09:34
Xochitl
And it's it's very kind of like thin. It's so creamy, but it doesn't have that custardy like flavor or thickness.
00:09:40
Jack
Yeah, it's almost comfy.
00:09:43
Jack
Then it comes up, yeah.
00:09:44
Xochitl
Yeah, it's not like clumpy or like thick. So I really enjoyed that actually. And I've come around to it. But that being said, I do prefer hot chocolate and that's because I don't drink the little sweet.
00:09:59
Xochitl
Packets. I always bring chocolate from Mexico and.
00:10:03
Xochitl
You dissolve that.
00:10:04
Xochitl
And milk.
00:10:06
Xochitl
And drink it. And I like to add some marshmallows in the bottom of the cup and then put like, some whipped cream on top and go to town on that.
00:10:15
Jack
You just make real hot real hot chocolate. Like the way it's supposed to be made you mix. You put real chocolate in with milk and and then you can add the the sugar. You don't even have to add that much sugar, probably because the marshmallows are sweetening it up.
00:10:31
Jack
Enough. Yeah, I don't add.
00:10:33
Xochitl
Any sugar actually? Because it's like dark chocolate. But it is sweetened some.
00:10:37
Jack
Oh, OK, so it's sweet and dark chocolate. OK. Yeah, that sounds really nice. That sounds wonderful. Yeah.
00:10:43
Xochitl
Yeah. And the Mexican one had it comes with like cinnamon and some other like spices in it incorporated into it.
00:10:52
발표자
OK.
00:10:52
Xochitl
So yeah, it has a really rich, nutty flavor, cause it's like the actual cocoa beans that have been like, crushed and processed. Yeah. So it's tasty.
00:11:04
Jack
I mean, I would be OK with either option to be honest, but The thing is, I haven't had eggnog for.
00:11:10
Jack
Probably 20 years, so I just miss it. You know, they don't sell it where I live. Here. I live in Korea so that we don't have eggnog here. You have to make your own and.
00:11:22
Jack
I don't know. I'm too lazy to do that so.
00:11:25
Jack
I think just buying Holly Nog in America would be would be kind of nice just one time.
00:11:33
Xochitl
Yeah. And it's so special because it's like you can only really have it around the like very specific like from November to December maybe or like November to the very beginning of like the end of November to the very beginning of January is when you can find eggnog on the shelves and.
00:11:50
Xochitl
You kind of get like a a month and maybe a couple of weeks like six weeks of eggnog time at at the Max. And then it's just completely gone off the shelves and you can't buy it anywhere. So.
00:12:03
Jack
You can go to McDonald's and you can.
00:12:04
Jack
Get an eggnog shake, which are amazing those are.
00:12:08
Xochitl
Is that a real?
00:12:09
Xochitl
Thing I've never had that before.
00:12:10
Jack
Yes, yes, they have the Shamrock shake, which is around Saint Patrick's Day, which is.
00:12:16
Jack
Mint and then they have the around the holiday season, they've got the eggnog shake.
00:12:24
Xochitl
I may have to try that. I'm sure it's going to be like 1000.
00:12:27
Xochitl
Calories in.
00:12:27
Xochitl
One I got I have.
00:12:27
Jack
Ohh yeah, it's a.
00:12:29
Xochitl
To give it a try though now.
00:12:30
Jack
You gotta try it though.
00:12:31
Xochitl
That you've talked about it. Gotta try it. Alright, Jack. Now what about Christmas? Ham or Christmas Turkey? Which do you prefer? And which did you grow up with? I'm curious as well.
00:12:44
Jack
Both we've we've done turkeys and we've done hams.
00:12:48
Jack
UMI think maybe we did more turkeys than hams. If I'm not mistaken, but I'll take a Christmas ham any day of the week like over a A Christmas Turkey. You.
00:12:59
Xochitl
Know Turkey is.
00:13:00
Jack
Nice on Thanksgiving, but it's very dry. It's kind of, it's a dry meat. It's not like it's not necessarily.
00:13:09
Jack
The most delicious bird meat or poultry that you can that you can eat. I I love it but I eat it for nostalgic purposes but a ham. Ohh man. A really nice ham is is so good like ohh man. Couple slices of ham with some potatoes and.
00:13:29
Jack
Yeah, it's just a beautiful.
00:13:33
Jack
Meal. Yeah, I I miss. I missed the Christmas ham, to be honest.
00:13:38
Jack
What about you?
00:13:39
Xochitl
You know.
00:13:41
Xochitl
If I could choose anything, I would choose Doc. I think to make on Christmas, but that wasn't one of the.
00:13:46
Jack
Oh yeah. OK.
00:13:48
Xochitl
Options so I will go.
00:13:50
Xochitl
With ham as well, I think Turkey, it's just pretty bland. The only time I had really good Turkey was my grandpa, and I think my cousin like made a recipe together.
00:14:02
Xochitl
There where it was like Turkey Al Pastor, which is like a Mexican Taco kind of seasoning, but not like what you would typically think of as Taco seasoning in the Midwest as like chipotles and like some other dried chilies and adobo, like, mixed in a spice.
00:14:22
Xochitl
Mix and then.
00:14:23
Xochitl
Rubbed on the Turkey and it was really good. It made the Turkey super super flavorful.
00:14:31
Xochitl
But besides that, I've just never been a huge tricky fan. I'm OK with the leg as well, like I prefer the leg over the breast or anything, but I just. I'm not a Turkey fan. I mean, as you said, go ahead.
00:14:42
Jack
Yeah. No, I'm sorry. It was just, it's easy to make it to. It's easy to dry out the Turkey if you if it's cooked properly, where people aren't adding water, basting it, you know, a couple sticks of butter, you know, all over it, you know, it can really make it.
00:15:00
Jack
Make it delicious.
00:15:01
Jack
This so it it depends on how it's prepared I think.
00:15:06
Xochitl
Yeah, I mean, I've definitely had it. The most delicious Turkey, and it still wasn't it just it's harder to make that delicious and like it if you just put a ham in there, you know, rub some spices or some hot honey on it or something and stick it in the oven, you know, it's gonna come out good.
00:15:23
Jack
And it even just even just it just bakes in its own fat.
00:15:28
Xochitl
Yeah. And it comes out like good every time pretty much it's just lots of a hassle. I I just.
00:15:30
Jack
Yeah, right.
00:15:33
Xochitl
Prefer it to cooking the Turkey so you know.
00:15:40
Xochitl
I I am also a a ham fan. What about?
00:15:45
Xochitl
Candy canes or chocolate oranges. Now, candy canes uh for viewers who are unfamiliar are these little.
00:15:53
Xochitl
Cane shaped candies that are white and red, and they have a strong peppermint flavor. A very strong peppermint flavor, and then the chocolate orange is very popular here in the US and it's just a chocolate shaped like an orange. It even has little wedges that come out of its.
00:16:13
Xochitl
Whole and it's just kind of orange flavored, but it does have like an artificial orange flavoring in my opinion.
00:16:21
Jack
Yeah, I mean the, the, the when it.
00:16:24
Jack
Comes to like eating.
00:16:26
Jack
I'd probably rather eat the chocolate orange.
00:16:29
Jack
Then the candy cane.
00:16:31
Jack
But if you're if you're talking about aesthetics, you know, like like the the look of it like I'd rather have a Christmas with candy canes and no chocolate orange.
00:16:42
Jack
Is if that makes sense, because we used to decorate our tree with candy canes and we put them on the tree and then you could, you know, if you're, like, need a mint or something and you're, you know, you could take one and break off a.
00:16:57
Jack
Piece but to eat?
00:16:58
Jack
A whole candy cane is is.
00:17:01
Xochitl
Kind of overwhelming.
00:17:02
Jack
Yeah, it's too much mint. It's it's not good.
00:17:09
Xochitl
I kind of only like could glean in white ones. They're they come in different colors and the green and white ones have the like experiment flavor. Have you had those?
00:17:16
Jack
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, they have fruity ones they have.
00:17:18
Xochitl
Little different.
00:17:20
Jack
All kinds of different.
00:17:21
Xochitl
They have bubble gum flavored ones. I do like those, actually bubble gum ones and the lemon ones like the lemon ones that are. But yeah, I think the aesthetics are very Christmas thing. The red and white are the green and white are the red and green and white candy canes. But.
00:17:40
Xochitl
I even though.
00:17:42
Xochitl
I don't really like the chocolate orange because.
00:17:44
Xochitl
It's it's kind of artificial tasting, I think I'd still rather eat it just because the candy cane gets so overwhelming after a while.
00:17:52
Jack
Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna do the.
00:17:54
Jack
Candy cane. Take my I don't.
00:17:57
Jack
Think my teeth could handle it anymore, you know?
00:18:00
Xochitl
It's like burning your mouth too, and it's.
00:18:03
Xochitl
Yeah, I don't know.
00:18:03
Jack
Sugar. It's just eat. You're just eating a.
00:18:05
Jack
Sugar like if I'm.
00:18:07
Jack
Gonna eat that much sugar? I want to enjoy what I'm eating. Like. I don't want to. I'm not going to just open a bag of sugar and start, you know, taking spoons of sugar. I'm gonna eat something decadent. You know something? You naughty a dessert.
00:18:24
Jack
That I really enjoy, and so I wouldn't, I just wouldn't waste the calories on a candy cane, but a piece of chocolate, like one slice.
00:18:32
Jack
Of chocolate orange. I kind of like that. It's it's. It's like an interesting flavor. Like you said that you you said use the expression flavor profile and it's got like orange zest in it, but it's also chocolate. I don't mind that. I wouldn't be able to eat the whole thing obviously, but one slice of it would be.
00:18:52
Jack
You know, kind of perfect.
00:18:54
Xochitl
Right.
00:18:55
Xochitl
Yeah, for sure. How about Christmas cookies or gingerbread man? Now, Christmas cookies are like a sugar cookie with a sugar icing. It's literally just like cream or water and powdered sugar and food coloring that we put on top of Christmas cookies. And the base is just kind of like a vanilla butter sugar.
00:19:17
Xochitl
Cookie base and then gingerbread men have a gingerbread base. Which are it has ginger as one of the seasonings and then it.
00:19:28
Xochitl
Has like treacle or molasses, so like a thick dark sugar as another seasoning and it has a much more spicy.
00:19:39
Xochitl
Kind of flavor. It's heavily spiced.
00:19:42
Xochitl
Yeah, yeah. Which do you prefer?
00:19:45
Jack
You know, I don't mind gingerbread. I mean, I like it. I I can eat that. I think it tastes interesting, but.
00:19:55
Jack
100% give me a Christmas cookie any day. Any day like I I would love. I love Christmas cookies, especially one shaped like a tree.
00:20:04
Jack
Or Santa Claus.
00:20:06
Jack
Or a star.
00:20:08
Jack
UM, you?
00:20:10
Jack
Know those are I I love Christmas cookies. I I like them for the nostalgic purposes and I like the way they taste too. So.
00:20:22
Jack
That's my choice. What about you?
00:20:24
Xochitl
Yeah, I.
00:20:25
Xochitl
I would also.
00:20:26
Xochitl
Pick Christmas cookie just because like you said, Gingerbread. You know, it's interesting. I could. I could.
00:20:32
Xochitl
One and I would enjoy it, but I think Christmas cookies are just they can be too sweet. Which is why when I make my own, I prefer to just do like an outline of icing instead of covering the whole cookie and a sheet of icing. But it's just one of those delights that you could just.
00:20:53
Xochitl
You could eat.
00:20:53
Xochitl
Five in a row easily and not real.
00:20:56
Jack
Ohh yeah yeah yeah, I.
00:20:59
Jack
I I I indulge.
00:21:02
Jack
That's why we don't. I don't have. I don't. We don't. We don't make them here around.
00:21:08
Xochitl
Can't have them in your house? Yeah, usually.
00:21:09
Jack
No, no, no, no, I can't. I can't. It's. But it's such when my mom used to.
00:21:13
Jack
Make them she would make like.
00:21:14
Jack
100 You know I.
00:21:15
Jack
Mean they were. They were everywhere they were.
00:21:19
Jack
You you every time I walk past the kitchen, I I'd grab one or two.
00:21:24
Jack
And head down to watch TV and that's why they call it the holiday 15 or whatever you gain. Like, I guess that's not no, that's the freshman 15. Sorry, I'm using that holiday 5 is what it's called.
00:21:35
Xochitl
Shipping the holiday five, I think maybe.
00:21:40
Jack
The 5 lbs.
00:21:40
Xochitl
Yeah, nowadays it.
00:21:41
Xochitl
Does feel like it could be more like 15?
00:21:44
Jack
Well, it used to be 15 for me probably, but.
00:21:46
Jack
Yeah, I mean.
00:21:47
Jack
I would I always gained a ton of weight around the holiday season because I just ate whatever I wanted and there were. It was. Everything was around. You know, there's just every corner you turn. There's some new treats that my my mom was preparing Christmas cookies.
00:22:03
Jack
Chocolate covered cherries, almond bark.
00:22:07
Jack
I mean, how are you? What?
00:22:09
Jack
Are you going to do is say no to?
00:22:10
Jack
That I mean it's.
00:22:12
Xochitl
Yeah, just especially as a kid. There's, like, so many treats. I remember one time I was at like my.
00:22:19
Xochitl
Dad's like.
00:22:22
Xochitl
Departments Christmas parties. My dad is a professor, and I remember I grabbed like another cookie I already had, like two or three, and then one of the other professors.
00:22:32
Xochitl
He was like watching his children kind of, and he said.
00:22:38
Xochitl
How many have?
00:22:39
Xochitl
You had and I said one.
00:22:40
Xochitl
And he was like, oh, that's the well that.
00:22:42
Xochitl
He's like well.
00:22:42
Xochitl
The perfect answer is 2 because no one will tell you that you can't have another one. And I said, well, the perfect answer is one because.
00:22:47
Xochitl
Then I can have two more, not just.
00:22:49
Xochitl
One and I have. Yeah, I have lied and said only had one already, but I already have three. I'm.
00:22:56
Xochitl
It's just such a kid.
00:22:57
Xochitl
Because there's just like, there's literally mountains of different desserts, like holiday cookies and brownies and.
00:23:04
Jack
Why was that guy? What was he the?
00:23:06
Jack
Cookie please or something.
00:23:07
Xochitl
That's kind of why he was like, I don't know what, why he was on my **** about this, but he was kind of messing with all the kids in the same way. But it was kind of annoying. I was like, bro, you didn't even bring these my laughs as many as I want.
00:23:20
Jack
Yeah, yeah. I don't like that at all. I don't like that. That's like a form of shaming, shaming stuff. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:26
Xochitl
Yeah, for sure it was.
00:23:29
Jack
Else you like to do that to kids and I.
00:23:33
Jack
I never understood.
00:23:34
Jack
What? Why they do that? It's it's really annoying.
00:23:38
Xochitl
Right. What the power trip is about. I mean, kids are there to enjoy the holidays.
00:23:43
Xochitl
They don't, really.
00:23:43
Xochitl
Have to worry about calories the same way we.
00:23:45
Xochitl
Do either they're like.
00:23:46
Xochitl
Running around burning that off pretty much constantly, yeah.
00:23:49
Jack
Sure. Of course, of course.
00:23:52
Xochitl
Yeah, and yeah, it's just it's such a joyous experience because really there's like mountains of brownies, mountains of.
00:24:01
Xochitl
Different types of cookies? Cake. Ohh yeah fudge. There's like the least popular desserts which are like, you know, bourbon cake, fruit cake, bread.
00:24:04
Jack
Ohh fudge my mom used.
00:24:05
Jack
To make comments too.
00:24:18
Xochitl
Pudding with raisins in it.
00:24:21
Jack
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:22
Xochitl
Things like that. Yeah. And then there's like.
00:24:24
Xochitl
The ones that are kind of like sugary snacks like candy covered pretzels or chocolate covered strawberries, or you know, whatever.
00:24:33
Xochitl
But yeah, there's just such an assortment of different snacks, and I think it's just such a great time, great time to be a.
00:24:39
Xochitl
Kid, because you're like so.
00:24:42
Xochitl
Awestruck by all of this delicious food, and you don't even you're not worried because you didn't have to bring anything to the party. That was your parents job.
00:24:47
Jack
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:50
Xochitl
So you're just enjoying it.
00:24:55
Jack
Is is the best part of it? I mean, usually those those kinds of holiday parties, nobody cares. Everyone's the adults are are getting drunk and you know, they're drinking. They're drinking a different kind of eggnog, you know, eggnog with some bourbon or. Yeah.
00:25:13
Jack
Alcohol in it, which I always thought was disgusting. I tried that when I was an adult. I I drank the alcoholic eggnog and I was like, why would you?
00:25:23
Jack
Ever ruin eggnog with alcohol?
00:25:27
발표자
You should have.
00:25:28
Xochitl
The one in Mexico's called Rompope and it's like it's much tastier than the eggnog spiked with alcohol here in the US. It's like it's it's thinner and it has, like, more different spices in it. And it's really in the kind of vanilla flavored and it's very tasty. It tastes like a Bay leaves Irish but like.
00:25:46
Jack
Ohh OK then I could get on board probably.
00:25:49
Xochitl
Yeah, it's.
00:25:50
Xochitl
Good. Yeah, but the one here, it's like the texture is kind of wrong for for like the alcohol as well. It like makes it thick and it's already thick. And then it's just like thick and burning your throat at the same time.
00:25:51
Jack
OK.
00:26:02
Jack
Yeah, it's just. Well, it just.
00:26:04
Jack
Has a horrible after taste. It's just like, Oh no thanks.
00:26:07
Xochitl
Yeah, yeah. What did I drink for sure? Alright. Which brings us to our next talking point. Terrible Christmas traditions. Jeff, what is something you think is a terrible Christmas tradition?
00:26:21
Jack
My terrible Christmas traditions. Alright, well, let's see here. I think one terrible Christmas tradition is.
00:26:31
Jack
Like caroling is annoying, right? Like.
00:26:36
Jack
If you're participating in caroling, you're you have to go outside in the freezing cold weather and then you're going to people's houses and singing.
00:26:47
Jack
Uh to them. But they didn't ask for it, so it's unsolicited singing.
00:26:57
Xochitl
And they're kind of interrupting your, like, holiday time.
00:27:00
Jack
Yeah, you're eating dinner or something, and then it's like, oh, hey, Carol, the carolers are here, and then we all have to run out and pretend that we enjoy that they came by, but we're just, like, really hoping they'll leave really soon. And, you know, it's just, it's like, and the carolers are so excited and they think that everybody loves it.
00:27:20
Jack
And it's like, you know, it's like when you're.
00:27:22
Jack
When your toddler.
00:27:24
Jack
Gives you a a artwork from kindergarten or whatever and.
00:27:29
Jack
You like. Look, look what?
00:27:30
Jack
I made you know, and you have to be, like, pretend that it's the most amazing painting ever painted of.
00:27:38
Jack
A horse or.
00:27:39
Jack
Whatever and and, but really, you know it's, you know, it's not genuine.
00:27:45
Jack
I I don't know. I mean maybe.
00:27:46
Jack
Some people enjoy it, they like genuinely enjoy caroling. I just frankly think it's more of like a movie thing. It's like.
00:27:55
Xochitl
A performance thing to like? Uh.
00:27:58
Xochitl
Like we have.
00:27:59
Xochitl
For full term, it's just like a a tradition that people perform it even if they don't want to. Kind of.
00:28:07
Jack
Well, you know the the the thing that.
00:28:09
Jack
My problem with it again is just the intrusion, like going to people's houses and doing it. I kind of like like maybe.
00:28:17
Jack
If you go to.
00:28:18
Jack
A performance like if you go to a church service or something like that and then there's a choir singing some of the Christmas songs.
00:28:27
Jack
Then I I'm like, that's great. I that's what I signed up.
00:28:27
Xochitl
Right.
00:28:30
Jack
Four, but.
00:28:31
Xochitl
Or, if you're like, if Carol, you know.
00:28:33
Xochitl
I think it'd be better if, like the Carroll Group, like went downtown or something, and they were just like downtown kind of busking like, because if you're in the downtown area or whatever, then you would expect to see stuff like that on Christmas and.
00:28:45
Xochitl
It kind of.
00:28:45
Jack
I don't mind that either.
00:28:46
Jack
I don't mind public, public singing around the the holiday season. I'm not a total Scrooge. I'm not like a Bahama bug. I just think it's like the personal intrusion, like I'm in the middle of die hard, you know, it's like a really cool part coming up and then I hear these people singing outside. I can't be rude and ignore them.
00:28:52
Xochitl
Right.
00:29:06
Jack
But I have to humor them, but I don't really appreciate it as much as they think that I appreciate it so.
00:29:13
Jack
You know, you know who appreciates the carolers, our elderly people.
00:29:18
Jack
They just love.
00:29:18
Xochitl
That's true.
00:29:18
Jack
That stuff. So they should just go to elderly people's houses and just put a.
00:29:23
Jack
Smile on on.
00:29:24
Xochitl
Or like Elder like.
00:29:26
Xochitl
They should go to nursing homes. And just like saying I that would be like the most appreciating.
00:29:28
Jack
Yes, go to nursing homes. That's what they they love that don't. Don't.
00:29:33
Jack
Carol on my.
00:29:34
Jack
St. No one, no one cares. Hey.
00:29:36
Xochitl
Yeah, get off my freaking St. we're like.
00:29:38
발표자
Get out of get.
00:29:39
Jack
Off my yard and shake my cane at them.
00:29:41
Xochitl
Yeah, you know, I I I'm not a fan of carolers either. I I the interruption, you know, I think would be a really funny comedy sketch is if you're like, in there arguing with your family and Carol or, like, knock on the door and you have to, like, open the door and like, stop. Yeah, you have to, like, stop for through it.
00:29:56
Jack
What? What do you want?
00:30:01
Jack
Hack the horse with balls of Holly. Shut up.
00:30:05
Xochitl
You hear like glass breaking in the.
00:30:07
Xochitl
Background people like this fighting.
00:30:07
Jack
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:09
Xochitl
I mean, yeah, the intrusion aspect is something that's hard, especially because I think American culture is very individualistic and we don't like, have community in the same way that other cultures do. And I think we.
00:30:24
Xochitl
I I mean, I'm not ********.
00:30:25
Xochitl
On your perspective, I have the same.
00:30:26
Xochitl
Perspective as you I don't want anyone like knocking on my door.
00:30:29
Xochitl
I probably won't answer and.
00:30:34
Xochitl
We don't like, we don't really have that kind of of community aspect and it does feel like an intrusion and you have to suffer through this and then oftentimes part of the tradition is like, you have to offer them like hot chocolate or something to drink.
00:30:50
Jack
Yeah, right. Yeah, some some piggy pudding, yeah.
00:30:51
Xochitl
And then I'll standing around.
00:30:54
Jack
And I'm.
00:30:55
발표자
Like I don't even.
00:30:55
Jack
Know what figgy pudding is? I'm sorry. Like I've never seen it. I've never had it before.
00:31:03
Jack
I couldn't pick a fig out of a police lineup. Probably so.
00:31:11
Jack
Yeah, get off my lawn, you carolers.
00:31:14
Jack
What else is?
00:31:14
Jack
There. What? What's another like horrible Christmas tradition?
00:31:14
Xochitl
Yeah, that is.
00:31:18
Jack
I I I. I'll. I'll.
00:31:19
발표자
Right.
00:31:20
Jack
Give you an example, I have one. I think that you would agree with is like I think this like this idea of parents that just go way.
00:31:28
Jack
Over the top.
00:31:28
Jack
With presents is just is getting out of hand like.
00:31:33
Jack
You know.
00:31:36
Jack
It's like keeping up.
00:31:38
Jack
With The Smiths, we say, right, that expression or.
00:31:41
Xochitl
Like keeping up with the Joneses, you mean?
00:31:43
Jack
As Joe Jones.
00:31:44
Jack
Is sorry not The Smiths. I'm thinking of something else. Maybe I'm thinking of the movie. Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah. Keeping up with the Joneses. That's what I meant to say. It's the the idea that you have to, like, match what your neighbor's doing and do a little bit better. Just, just just to prove to everyone watching how.
00:31:49
Xochitl
You probably are.
00:32:04
Jack
How well you're doing, you know, as far as like, financial?
00:32:08
Jack
Really being financially successful and so you know, I got my kids, an Xbox and new, you know, video game, PlayStation and Ohh well then I got mine, the newer one and you know.
00:32:23
Jack
There's there's one up 11.
00:32:25
Jack
Upsmanship, I don't. I don't like it.
00:32:29
Jack
I I feel like the Christmas has just become and this has been for a long time, way too consumer based, you know, it's just it's all about consumerism. How much can we consume and and stuff that will be in a closet two months from now.
00:32:47
Jack
No, just collecting dust. Just jump.
00:32:51
Jack
And I that that's.
00:32:53
Jack
That's one aspect of of Christmas that I really I I don't know. I I just, it's it's really gotten out of out of control I think. So I I don't like that aspect of of the of the Christmas. I I want I want to get back to to a more.
00:33:13
Jack
Traditional approach to it, which is the the family time it's, you know, a time to not work a time to decompress, spend time with family and really make connections. And like what you said, you're always about the experience presence.
00:33:31
Jack
Why not do something like that, like go skiing or do something as a family and use the money to like do something instead of just buy something. Just always buying dumb stuff.
00:33:44
Jack
Plastic garbage that's gonna end up in the middle of the ocean. A year and a half from now, you know.
00:33:51
Xochitl
Right.
00:33:52
Jack
Yeah, that's my. I'm on my I'm on my soapbox this morning.
00:33:56
Xochitl
I you know, I agree. I agree. Because as you know, I'm a huge proponent of the experience gift. I think experience is there's so much more valuable to us than.
00:34:08
Xochitl
And item like actually getting physical material goods and those memories are something you get to keep forever and in its value only increases with time. Looking back and with the junk you get on Christmas, it's like, OK, well, I'm 30 years, it's going to be any good or.
00:34:28
Xochitl
In you know in 20 in just five years now with with planned OPS leases is probably going to.
00:34:33
Xochitl
Be in the trash.
00:34:34
Jack
I have a Nintendo Wii. It's just collecting dust.
00:34:38
Xochitl
Yep, we gotta pee.
00:34:38
Jack
No. Yeah.
00:34:39
Xochitl
As well, it also collects stuff. We gotta wee for Christmas one.
00:34:42
Xochitl
Year it's collecting dust. We barely we we didn't play it that much to be honest. At the time there weren't that many games for it in the US and like I don't know, I just there's I think.
00:35:00
Xochitl
If I ever have kids, I would like to include them on what would they like to have for Christmas? What would they like to do? You know, if they want some juncture, maybe they can have some junk, but like, wouldn't you rather travel or would you rather go on a ski trip or would you rather?
00:35:21
Xochitl
Go. You know, do something else and and spend that time together and that money more wisely.
00:35:30
Xochitl
Then yeah, they're buying a bunch of junk. I actually haven't gotten presents for anyone this year, and I and I don't want presents from anyone either. I have enough stuff. I just don't want more stuff. I mean, there's.
00:35:43
Xochitl
A couple things.
00:35:44
Xochitl
That people in my life like can need that I'm like oh.
00:35:46
Xochitl
Yeah, I'll get them that.
00:35:48
Xochitl
But like.
00:35:51
Xochitl
If I already have enough things, I don't want more clothes. I don't want like physical items, especially in someone who travels so much it just clutters up your space and.
00:36:02
Xochitl
I don't have like the.
00:36:04
Xochitl
The space to be storing perpetually, storing tons and tons of clothing items. So.
00:36:09
Jack
Right.
00:36:11
Jack
And I find that I I wear the same.
00:36:15
Jack
Thing over and over again anyway, like the the of of my clothing choices.
00:36:20
Jack
I there's a very narrow scope of what I will wear anyway.
00:36:24
Jack
I I mean, I I spent a lot of my time.
00:36:26
Xochitl
Right.
00:36:28
Jack
Just at home wearing like Adidas, an Adidas tracksuit, you know it's like.
00:36:33
Xochitl
Right.
00:36:34
Jack
If I'd have.
00:36:34
Jack
Known. That's all I'd like. I would have just bought like 5 track suits in every color of the rainbow. And that's that's all I'm going to wear.
00:36:41
Xochitl
Right.
00:36:45
Jack
UM.
00:36:46
Jack
Yeah, it's very strange. Why? How we collect stuff that we think we need and then you start to look, go through your stuff and you're like, wow, I I I don't need any of this stuff. I just.
00:36:59
Jack
So I I'm.
00:37:01
Jack
I think the consumerism is 1. You know terrible aspect of.
00:37:06
Jack
Christmas, the the and you know.
00:37:08
Jack
It's been like that for.
00:37:11
Jack
I don't know, 50 years, probably, maybe longer, but it's. But it just seems to get more out of control every every decade. You know, it just gets ridiculous.
00:37:23
Jack
UM.
00:37:24
Jack
And yeah, the other one was, I guess I was, I'm really anti caroling, although compared to consumerism. I'll I'll take caroling over consumerism.
00:37:37
Xochitl
Any day I for me, I guess mine are.
00:37:43
Xochitl
My tradition that I really don't like is in Mexico. There's something called Christmas like salad. I don't know why it's called this. It's a soup, not a salad to begin with. And it's.
00:37:56
Xochitl
It's cold, sweet beet juice.
00:38:01
Xochitl
And that's like the base for the soup. So like bright red and inside it has like chunks of.
00:38:09
Xochitl
Fruit like apples, oranges, jicama and then it has.
00:38:15
Xochitl
Like candied peanuts floating in it too.
00:38:19
Jack
Well, why not at this point?
00:38:21
Xochitl
Yeah, right. And a couple of.
00:38:23
Jack
When it's not there, yeah.
00:38:25
Xochitl
Yeah, a couple other things I don't remember. And and I've just hated it ever since I was a child. I don't think there'll ever be a time where my taste buds will actually like this. And my mom makes a big old pot of it every year. When I was a kid, she would force me to eat a certain amount of it, and I would.
00:38:43
Xochitl
It would be so hard not to barf because it was just the, you know, beat. Jews just doesn't work. It's like.
00:38:49
Jack
You lost me. You lost me at beach juice. To be honest. Like after that. It didn't matter. What was it? It you could be gold bar gold bullion in there. And I don't care after.
00:39:00
Xochitl
That's how I felt. I did not want especially sweet beet juice as like a base it.
00:39:05
Xochitl
Was just it's so.
00:39:06
Xochitl
Bad and and I've never liked this, and my father actually really likes it for some bizarre reason.
00:39:12
Jack
Yeah. Dad's always like that weird have strange palettes like, yeah.
00:39:18
Xochitl
Yeah, they have weird *****, but weird that taste buds for sure but.
00:39:24
Xochitl
I just.
00:39:26
Xochitl
That's probably the worst tradition I can think of is.
00:39:30
Xochitl
Is that and then another I'll I'll add in a little another one here and the last one for me. I think it's having to see family that you don't want to see. And I think this is changing with each generation and my generation does this less now.
00:39:47
Xochitl
But just the idea of how packing your kids up and forcing them to go see Grandma and Grandpa or you know, and it's kind of a time we have such little time off these days, so little vacation time and.
00:40:03
Xochitl
It just feels like it'd be so great to be able to spend that time decompressing or traveling or doing something that you want to do, and instead we spend it seeing family that we sometimes don't even want to see.
00:40:18
Xochitl
Yeah, for real and family, that doesn't necessarily see eye to eye with us or doesn't respect us.
00:40:28
Xochitl
It can be demoralizing to have to spend that little time off seeing people that you don't want to see.
00:40:34
Xochitl
In the first place.
00:40:36
Jack
Yeah. No, that's that's a good point. You know, I don't have that problem. I live in South.
00:40:40
Jack
Korea all.
00:40:40
Jack
Family live in America, so I I never see them, but I know that several of them will not speak to me because of our political differences. And so, you know, it would be.
00:40:55
Jack
Very awkward to try.
00:40:56
Jack
And a have a a a Christmas holiday get together because I know that, you know eventually.
00:41:06
Jack
The conversation will go to politics and I'll express my opinions and they'll, you know, denounce them as.
00:41:17
Jack
Evil and it'll be he'll turn into a huge a huge fight, a huge argument. So yeah, it's it's funny how families are kind of split right now over the very.
00:41:33
Jack
In English, we say polarized political landscape in America.
00:41:40
Jack
And so I I yeah, I I I think you're right like why, why put yourself through that it's like.
00:41:48
Jack
Be because it's a tradition.
00:41:50
Jack
It's like, well, that's a dumb reason to do something you don't want.
00:41:54
Jack
To do you know.
00:41:56
Jack
It's just out of tradition. It's like, well, make a new tradition.
00:42:01
Jack
All right, my new tradition is not putting myself through that painful experience and uh, going on a ski vacation with my, you know, best friend or something. Whatever. You know, there's, there's, I, I think we get, we get stuck in these these ideas like you.
00:42:18
Jack
We have to do it.
00:42:20
Jack
But why?
00:42:22
Xochitl
Right.
00:42:23
Jack
It's not making anyone happy. That's the and the whole point of it is to be joyful and and happy holidays. But if if you, if you're not, if you don't want to be around certain family members, why put yourself in that situation so?
00:42:39
Jack
Yeah, it's it's a. It's an interesting thing. I I think like you said, I think younger generations are starting to go. You know what? I get very little time off. I'm not even going to go home for Christmas. I'm going to spend it with my friends or with my boyfriend, my girlfriend, or whatever. My significant other. We're going to make our own traditions and.
00:42:59
Jack
The heck with the all all the the.
00:43:02
Jack
Old traditions from the 1980s or the 1990s.
00:43:06
Jack
When we don't have to do that anymore and I respect people to do that, I I like that.
00:43:13
Xochitl
Yeah. So Jack's moving on.
00:43:20
Xochitl
I have some other gifts or that type questions.
00:43:24
Jack
Now, yeah, OK.
00:43:26
Xochitl
Which do you prefer? The Grinch movie?
00:43:29
Xochitl
The Grinch cartoon or the new animated Grinch movie, I would guess which of all the Grinch series or movies do you prefer?
00:43:39
Jack
OK, so I.
00:43:40
Jack
Saw the 1969 one. I think it's I I can't remember what year it was, but it's the old Grinch cartoon. It's about 1/2 an hour long. It's about 30 minutes.
00:43:50
Jack
Or 25 minutes long. Then there's the Grinch movie with Jim Carrey, which is a full feature length movie, and it's a live, you know, live action movie of The Grinch. And then they also recently released a kind of Pixar. I don't know if it was Pixar, but like.
00:44:09
Jack
The CG animated Grinch movie.
00:44:12
Xochitl
Yep, I saw that.
00:44:14
Jack
OK. And I never, I haven't seen that one because.
00:44:17
Xochitl
It's not part of it. I've turned it off after a while. I didn't like it.
00:44:20
Jack
Yeah, it looked boring to me and it was like I I think the perfect length for the Grinch story is about 20 minutes or 25 minutes, which and so the Grinch cartoon, I love the animation. It's very loyal to the book, Doctor Seuss's animated style.
00:44:39
Jack
It's it's got a great message. It's funny. It's got really good music. It's got the whole thing. So, and it's also creepy.
00:44:49
Jack
And my my.
00:44:50
Jack
Daughter used to be very scared of.
00:44:52
Jack
The Grinch from that cartoon.
00:44:55
Jack
Because he does look very creepy.
00:44:58
Xochitl
He doesn't.
00:44:58
Jack
That's not as creepy as.
00:45:00
Jack
The Jim Carrey one that's even worse.
00:45:03
Xochitl
Right. The one slur like is the one that got me for Doctor Seuss. I had a dream that the one slur was choking me when I was about like 8 years old. And after that, I never wanted to. I never wanted to read The Lorax again, which is another famous Doctor Seuss story. And I I love The Lorax. Prior to that, I would force my.
00:45:23
Xochitl
I would force anyone who would offer to read to me to read me The Lorax as a child.
00:45:29
Jack
Yes. Again, conservation story, a story of conservation and and you know a great message, but done in a in a super creative way that's this amazing.
00:45:41
Xochitl
Yeah, a very, very creative and fun way.
00:45:44
Jack
Yeah, they they tried to make that into a movie recently too, and it didn't really work again. Like it, it doesn't quite do it.
00:45:53
Xochitl
Yeah, it's like they.
00:45:54
Xochitl
Kind of messing it up. It just doesn't work the same.
00:45:59
Xochitl
Yeah, I I actually am going to go a little against the grain and say my favorite of all the Grinch.
00:46:06
Xochitl
Remastering stations or whatever, it's just the original story.
00:46:10
Xochitl
I just. Nothing beats.
00:46:13
Xochitl
You know, as a kid sitting in, you know, your parents laugh or whatever, having them read you, the Grinch, and just following along with the illustrations, the original illustrations, which are very well done, and you kind of imagine all the different foods they talk about and.
00:46:30
Xochitl
Well, you know and and the Grinch and what he's like. And it just like, nothing beats how vivid A child's imagination is. And I think that that's something really special. So I think for me personally, I would have my kids read the story. I would read it to my kids because.
00:46:46
Xochitl
It's just such a special.
00:46:49
Xochitl
Little story.
00:46:50
Jack
Yeah, go to the source. Yeah. I I think you're probably right. I mean, I can't argue with that. I think the Grinch cartoon from the 1960s is is the second best choice. But yeah, I think reading the story.
00:47:07
Jack
Is is the best?
00:47:09
Jack
Especially when you're.
00:47:10
Xochitl
And I mean.
00:47:11
Xochitl
Ohh sorry, didn't mean to yeah check.
00:47:12
Jack
When you're a.
00:47:12
Jack
Child I. It's the best. It's great.
00:47:14
Xochitl
Yeah, for sure. I I was gonna chime in and say as an adult, I actually watched the Jim Carrey one, but they did not see it as a child. I saw it.
00:47:27
Xochitl
And seeing it as an adult.
00:47:31
Xochitl
It is pretty funny, at least to me, so I did enjoy it. I mean, Jim Carrey kind of has a really physical comedy aspect, so he's kind of wacky, you know, and I think the whole concept worked pretty well with his acting and.
00:47:48
Xochitl
Yeah, I got some laugh out of me seeing it as an adult. I mean as a.
00:47:51
Xochitl
Kid, I think it's like.
00:47:54
Xochitl
It's not going to be as funnier as like.
00:47:59
Xochitl
Entertaining, maybe, but.
00:48:02
Xochitl
As a as an adult I it's kind of similar to watching ELF or something. I really enjoyed it.
00:48:07
Jack
Yeah, yeah, the movie elf is probably one of the best Christmas movies of the last 20 years.
00:48:14
Jack
25 years, yeah, yeah.
00:48:14
Xochitl
Yeah, that is a great Christmas movie.
00:48:17
Xochitl
Yeah. And then Speaking of the Grinch as.
00:48:22
Xochitl
Our listeners may or not.
00:48:23
Xochitl
Or may not be familiar with the Grinch's heart grew three times at Christmas, meaning that he became a much better, warmer, kinder and more empathetic person by the.
00:48:35
Xochitl
End of the story.
00:48:37
Xochitl
So Jack, what makes?
00:48:39
Xochitl
Your heart grow three times during the holiday season.
00:48:44
Jack
Ohh that's a good question. What makes my heart go, Teresa, I'm.
00:48:49
Jack
I'm going to go back to uh, I'm going to go back to the cartoons.
00:48:55
Jack
Because there's one cartoon that makes my heart grow 3 sizes and you, you know this one. It's the Charlie Brown Christmas.
00:49:06
Xochitl
Uh-huh. Never thought all the.
00:49:07
Jack
Have you? Oh, you've never seen the whole thing? Oh, my gosh. OK, this one is.
00:49:13
Jack
It's got the.
00:49:15
Jack
It's got the story and at the end when all the you know, all the kids are singing around the the little Christmas tree that Charlie Brown had bought.
00:49:25
Jack
It was a.
00:49:26
Jack
Such a sad tree, but they dressed it up and and made it look nice.
00:49:30
Jack
Sir. And then they were all singing. I don't know. I I really love that. I think because I I watched it with my daughter when she was young. I would I I somehow downloaded it off of the Internet like 20 years ago or something and or 15 years ago. And so every Christmas, my daughter and I would watch this.
00:49:52
Jack
It's kind of a tradition. We'd watch the Grinch. She didn't like the Grinch that scared her when she was young, but she did love the Charlie Brown Christmas, especially the music.
00:50:05
Jack
And and then that story always kind of gets me, you know, it always kinds of it kind of tugs at my heartstrings and so it kind of makes me my heart grow 3 sizes larger.
00:50:20
Jack
During the holiday season so that I I've kind of, I kind of tightened the our last section to this this last segment here. What about you, what makes your heart grow 3 sizes?
00:50:33
Xochitl
Well, I think.
00:50:34
Xochitl
This Christmas it was. I was just in the shop with my aunt. We were getting like some last minute Christmas lights for the for the.
00:50:45
Xochitl
Bush is outside because some of ours burned out and getting a couple other things we needed at Target, and I walked past these little kids, really little kids who I think were with their grandparents and kids must have been like three and four or something. And the little boy was asking.
00:51:04
Xochitl
You know. Oh, well, you know, if we do this, how will Santa know that this one's for me? And how will Santa know? Like he's asking how Santa would know or be able to figure out.
00:51:14
Xochitl
Certain things and.
00:51:17
Xochitl
It's so cute because you know, as an adult, we know that Santa isn't real.
00:51:24
Xochitl
And it, but it's like such a joy to hear.
00:51:29
Xochitl
Children like.
00:51:31
Xochitl
Caught up in that.
00:51:33
Xochitl
Kind of fantasy of Santa.
00:51:37
Xochitl
It's just so it's so.
00:51:38
Xochitl
Cute and like warm and and fuzzy.
00:51:42
Xochitl
And you hope that they it's almost like it's just the Christmas magic. It's just so real when you're a kid and you're, like, waiting for something to calm and you're so excited you can't even sleep. It's just like the world is such a great place when you're.
00:51:58
Jack
I know, I know that.
00:52:02
Jack
I I missed that that your eyes just wide open at midnight on or, you know, 1159 on Christmas Eve because.
00:52:11
Jack
You're just too.
00:52:11
Jack
Excited to to go to sleep.
00:52:15
Xochitl
I wish you could bottle that.
00:52:16
Jack
And yet you still fall asleep. And then you wake up in the morning and you rub your eyes and you're like, and then you remember it's Christmas morning and you run to the tree. I mean, how great is that? That is the greatest.
00:52:30
Jack
That memory also makes my heart grow 33 sizes, just remembering what it's like to be a kid and then remembering what it was like for my daughter to wake up on Christmas and trying to give that to her. That was.
00:52:42
Xochitl
How did your daughter find out Santa wasn't real?
00:52:45
Jack
Uh, my wife said that. I just.
00:52:46
Jack
Told her one.
00:52:47
Jack
Day and uh, I don't remember doing that, but I probably did. I.
00:52:50
Xochitl
I have to.
00:52:51
Xochitl
Be brutal.
00:52:52
Jack
I know, I just. I just said like, Oh yeah, he's not real.
00:52:57
발표자
Yeah, I don't.
00:52:58
Jack
Know I don't know.
00:52:59
Jack
Why I did that? I.
00:53:00
Jack
Think I felt like she was.
00:53:01
Jack
Old enough to where it was like.
00:53:03
Jack
You know the the the mystery is, is gone. Now it's, you know.
00:53:09
Xochitl
How old do you think she was?
00:53:12
Xochitl
When that happened?
00:53:14
Jack
According to my wife, she was probably.
00:53:17
Jack
9 or 10 but I how about think? Maybe she was like 11 or something. Me a little bit older, you know, in in elementary school it wasn't like she was four or five. And I just, you know, ruined.
00:53:24
Xochitl
Right.
00:53:29
Xochitl
Right. Ruined the match.
00:53:30
Jack
It for.
00:53:30
Jack
Her it was getting close to the time where you start to, you know, they start to hear rumors and innuendo around the.
00:53:38
Jack
The school that uh, Santa may not be real.
00:53:41
Jack
So I just kind.
00:53:42
발표자
Right.
00:53:43
Jack
Of told her. Yeah, it's not real.
00:53:45
Xochitl
You wanted her to hear it from.
00:53:47
Jack
You. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want her to know that I was the one that stayed up till 2:30 in the morning trying to put the, the, the, the kitchen set together. It was very difficult. I was like, sweating. And it took you needed.
00:54:05
Jack
All these crazy tools to and it would.
00:54:07
Jack
Weigh a ton.
00:54:08
Jack
And you know, it's like a A A.
00:54:11
Jack
Fake kitchen kitchenette.
00:54:12
Jack
You know, area with a refrigerator and all this stuff.
00:54:16
Jack
And ohh man.
00:54:18
Jack
Those days, building those toys, I I do not miss that at all.
00:54:25
Xochitl
Right. Yeah. Well, that's wild. I don't know how. I think my dad also just told me.
00:54:29
Xochitl
Saying I wasn't real.
00:54:30
Xochitl
I was like, I was like ohh. I was like 13 though. But it's not that I didn't think Santa wasn't real already. It was like my sister was older than me and she kept pretending Santa is real so she could keep writing her list to Santa and just like, have my.
00:54:44
Xochitl
Parents give her presents and. Yeah, and so she.
00:54:47
Jack
She's smart.
00:54:52
Xochitl
Was like keep writing your list to Santa and so then we just kept doing that. My dad I think was fed up with us doing that. So he just told that Santa wasn't real. I was like 12 or I must been 12 or 13.
00:55:00
Xochitl
And she was like, 15 or 16/12/15?
00:55:03
Jack
He's like, what do you?
00:55:03
Jack
Want just tell me what you want.
00:55:06
Xochitl
Grow up or whatever, but even.
00:55:10
Xochitl
When I was like 10 or 11, I think I still believed in Santa because.
00:55:18
Xochitl
I remember asking Santa Claus for an older brother because I was tired of my sister picking on me and I was like, you know, if I.
00:55:23
Xochitl
Had an older sibling, I bet that would fix it.
00:55:26
Xochitl
Then have someone to pick on.
00:55:28
Xochitl
Her. So that was my thinking and.
00:55:32
Xochitl
I think it was like probably 10 or so, and I thought of that genius plan.
00:55:35
Jack
Your dad said like I can't deliver.
00:55:37
Jack
This one. So yeah, sorry.
00:55:40
Xochitl
Yeah, younger sibling, maybe older siblings and out of the question.
00:55:42
발표자
And it's not, yeah.
00:55:43
Jack
Yeah, yeah, younger might be possible, but older.
00:55:46
Jack
We're not adopting a A.
00:55:50
Jack
A kid, yeah.
00:55:51
Xochitl
Right. Adopting a child. So yeah, that.
00:55:53
Xochitl
Was all the question.
00:55:55
Xochitl
All right, listeners.
00:55:55
Xochitl
Will let us know what your favorite holiday traditions are in your neck of the woods. And yeah, tell us what you think about our holiday traditions here in the United States. And and yeah. What are some of your favorite holiday movies? Are there certain foods they eat during this time of year?
00:56:17
Xochitl
You know what is something that really warms your heart during this holiday season? Let us know at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com. Drop us a comment on our website, azenglishpodcast.com and join our WhatsApp Group A-Z English podcast and our WeChat Group and we will see you guys next time.
00:56:38
Jack
Bye bye.
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