The Joe Rogan Experience

#2567 - Mariana van Zeller

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Oct 16, 2026
Mariana van Zeller, a Peabody and Emmy Award-winning investigative journalist and filmmaker, explores romance scams, AI companionship, and the loneliness that leaves people vulnerable. She takes listeners inside Myanmar’s brutal scam compounds and examines sextortion, fake celebrities, and platform accountability. The conversation also spans cartel corruption, gun trafficking, fentanyl, the opioid crisis, and psychedelic treatment.
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INSIGHT

How Pig-Butchering Scams Fatten Victims

  • Pig-butchering scams first build trust, then introduce fake investments supported by dashboards, screenshots, and small permitted withdrawals.
  • The name describes fattening victims emotionally and financially before taking everything.
INSIGHT

Platforms Profit When Scams Reach More Users

  • Mariana shifted blame from supposedly foolish victims toward platforms that knowingly enable and profit from fraudulent advertising.
  • Internal Meta estimates reportedly projected billions in revenue from scams and banned goods while suspected scammers remained active.
ANECDOTE

The Sextortion Profile That Came Back

  • A teenager died by suicide after being sextorted, and the same email address later created another Facebook profile.
  • The family’s experience exposed how removing one account without blocking its operator leaves victims vulnerable.
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