Nat Friedman, former CEO of GitHub, discusses the Vesuvius Challenge to unlock the Herculaneum Papyri using a particle accelerator. Topics include prize incentives for contests, childhood experiences in open-source communities, and the possible resurgence of Epicureanism.
Innovative scanning techniques, like using a particle accelerator, are crucial for uncovering hidden words in the Herculaneum scrolls.
Detailed segmentation of the spirals of papyrus by a dedicated team enabled the generation of 3D images to explore unread text within the scrolls.
The dual-prize contest design for decoding the scrolls combined competition and cooperation, incentivizing progress at different levels and fostering collaboration among contestants.
Deep dives
Decoding the Herculaneum Scrolls
The villa in Herculaneum, owned by Julius Caesar's father-in-law, held a library of Greek scrolls preserved by the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Philodemus, a prominent philosopher and resident, curated this library, providing a unique glimpse into ancient philosophy. The scrolls, primarily on Epicurean philosophy, pose a challenge due to the complex techniques needed for deciphering. Breakthroughs in scanning technology, such as using a particle accelerator, and innovative approaches have led to uncovering words hidden in the scrolls.
Unrolling the Scrolls
One of the critical steps in deciphering the Herculaneum scrolls involves segmenting the warped spirals of papyrus to reveal the hidden writings. This painstaking process required human resources for manual segmentation, smoothing the way for advanced technological analysis. A dedicated team meticulously traced the papyrus, essential for generating 3D images and enabling the exploration of unread text encapsulated within the scrolls.
Innovative Contest Design
The innovative contest design for decoding the scrolls involved a dual-prize structure. While the grand prize aimed at discovering passages within the scrolls, progress prizes incentivized smaller achievements along the way. This strategy provided encouragement and recognition for incremental progress, fostering a collaborative spirit among contestants. The contest's engaging format combined elements of competition and cooperation, accelerating the pace of deciphering and uncovering ancient knowledge.
Epicureanism and Ancient Wisdom
The scrolls' content primarily focusing on Epicurean philosophy offers insights into ancient views on life, death, and values. Amidst a changing world, the philosophy of thinkers like Philodemus resonates in addressing profound questions essential for a meaningful existence. The discovery and interpretation of these texts shed light on timeless themes and offer perspectives that may resonate with contemporary seekers of wisdom.
Inspiration for Unconventional Projects
The Herculaneum scrolls project serves as a beacon for embarking on unconventional and ambitious endeavors. Encouraging individuals to delve into unexplored territories and pursue projects that challenge the norm, the quest to decode ancient texts epitomizes relentless curiosity and determination. The intersection of humanities and technology exemplifies a Renaissance spirit, urging modern explorers to embrace daring projects that defy conventional boundaries.
An interview with Nat Friedman, former CEO of GitHub and creator of the Vesuvius Challenge, which aims to crack the riddles of the Herculaneum Papyri.
In this episode:
The Genesis of the Vesuvius Challenge
Early Attempts to Open the Scrolls
Using a Particle Accelerator to Scan the Scrolls!
Partnering with Daniel Gross and Brent Seales
Nat’s Childhood experience with Open-source Communities
How to Design Prize Incentives for a Complex Contest
Doing Crazy, Strange and Risky Projects
A Possible Resurgence of Epicureanism?
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This episode is sponsored by Ancient Language Institute. If you’re interested in actually reading the newly unlocked scrolls, you will need to know the languages of the ancient world. The Ancient Language Institute will help you do just that. Registration is now open (till August 10th) for their Fall term where you can take advanced classes in Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, and Old English.
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