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A legal architect of Guantanamo questions Trump's El Salvador plan

May 2, 2025

The discussion dives into the ongoing practice of indefinite detention at Guantanamo Bay, questioning its legal justifications. It highlights the stark parallels between past and present deportation policies, particularly under the Trump administration. The podcast contrasts the rights of detainees under both the Bush and Trump eras, revealing troubling implications for due process. Legal expert John Yoo provides insights into the ethical dilemmas of torture and the complex legal frameworks affecting immigrants today.

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The indefinite detention at Guantanamo Bay exemplifies a troubling legal framework that undermines both human rights and due process for detainees.

The Trump administration's deportation of foreign nationals to El Salvador raises significant legal questions and parallels past justifications for wartime detentions.

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Indefinite Detention at Guantanamo Bay

The U.S. has maintained a policy of indefinite detention at Guantanamo Bay since its inception, with former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld stating that detainees would not be classified as prisoners of war but as unlawful combatants, thereby stripping them of rights under both U.S. constitutional law and the Geneva Convention. This classification has led to ongoing criticism, as many of the detainees, currently 15 remain imprisoned, including six who have never been charged with a crime, are subjected to a legal framework described as a 'black hole.' The implication of this situation is that both the detainees and their legal status are lost in a bureaucratic limbo that raises significant human rights concerns. The comparison is drawn to the treatment of migrants under the Trump administration, showcasing a consistent pattern of legal ambiguities surrounding detention policies.

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Judicial Black Holes: The Plight of Detainees and Deportees

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Legal Parallels and Differences in U.S. Deportation Practices

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Contrasting Approaches to Detainee Rights and Due Process

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Navigating Legal Complexities: Torture and Deportation in U.S. Law

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The U.S. has sent people it has detained — people it calls terrorists — to a prison overseas — indefinitely.

This is true in 2025, after the Trump administration deported at least 261 foreign nationals to a maximum security prison in El Salvador.

And it was also true two decades ago, following the attacks of Sept. 11, after the U.S. government began to house captured Taliban and al-Qaida fighters in the military prison at the U.S. Naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

During the George W. Bush administration, John Yoo wrote the legal justification for the treatment of Guantanamo detainees, now widely referred to as "the torture memos."

Yoo argues that there are key legal differences between what the Bush administration did – and what the Trump administration is attempting in El Salvador.

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A legal architect of Guantanamo questions Trump's El Salvador plan

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Indefinite Detention at Guantanamo Bay

Controversial Deportation Policies Under Trump

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