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Leading Transformational Change with Tobias Sturesson

019. Joan Lurie: Leading Change With A Systems Lens

Aug 13, 2020
Joan Lurie discusses using a systems thinking lens for organizational change. She emphasizes the importance of leaders seeing themselves as part of the system. Exploring challenges in a software company like internal conflict and lack of innovation. Highlighting the need for innovative ecosystems and effective innovation systems for lasting change.
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Quick takeaways

  • Systems thinking is vital for organizational change, leaders must see themselves as integral parts of the system.
  • Understanding organizations as complex adaptive systems leads to more effective solutions and transformative change.

Deep dives

Understanding Systemic Change

Joanne Lurie shares her journey of becoming passionate about systemic change in organizational culture. Growing up in South Africa during apartheid, she witnessed injustices in systems, driving her dedication to changing organizational systems. Lurie emphasizes the importance of using organizations as contexts for change, highlighting the success of a culture change program she was part of. By shifting relational patterns and roles within organizations, transformative change can be achieved across multiple organizations.

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