

Breathe in Fear, Breathe Out Calm, with Sean Thomas Dougherty
What does it mean to write for children in a collapsing world? Writer Marion Dane Bauer explores this question, and the roots of her own wonderment and awe, in a conversation with Alison.
Words by Winter: Conversations, reflections, and poems about the passages of life. Because it’s rough out there, and we have to help each other through.
Poet Sean Thomas Dougherty’s poem Why Bother, used with his permission, is from his book The Second O of Sorrow, published by BOA Editions. Original theme music composed and performed by Dylan Perese, who can be found on Instagram at @dylan.field.perese. Additional music composed and performed by Kelly Krebs, who can be reached at kellykrebsmusic@gmail.com and soundcloud.com/kellykrebs. Artwork by Mark Garry. Words by Winter can be reached at wordsbywinterpodcast@gmail.com. For more information, go to alisonmcghee.com and click on the Words by Winter podcast page.