This week on the show another doubleheader, this time reaching into two different parts of the immersiverse.

First up we have a great talk with Nate Koch, the prolific producer who has been part of Sleep No More, Queen of the Night, and the epic opening of Hermès’ flagship store in New York City to talk about a career that balances creating art and working with some of the biggest companies in the world as clients for experiential marketing. It’s the first time Nate and I have talked, and we have a fantastic conversation.

Then Athena Demos and Doug Jacobson of Big Rock Creative are back on the show to chat about the surprise closing of AltSpaceVR, where they’ve been hosting the award winning virtual Burning Man celebration known as BRCvr, the future of that particular project and of Big Rock Creative as a whole… and we get into some broader thoughts about the state of VR at this particular moment in time.

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Nate Koch of Enveekay; The Fate of BRCvr