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Charles Eisenstein is a public speaker and author of the books Climate — A New Story, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible, The Ascent of Humanity, and Sacred Economics.

His work covers a wide range of topics, including the history of human civilization, economics, spirituality, and the ecology movement. And some primary themes that he explores include anti-consumerism, interdependence, and how myth and narrative influence culture.

In this part two of our conversation, Charles sheds light on how the responses of various governments to the coronavirus pandemic, such as lockdown, quarantine, surveillance, and tracking, censorship of misinformation—justifiable or not—have been authoritarian, and why we should remain critical of these approaches even if we understand their immediate-term purpose; how our dominant use and acceptance of the meaning of certain words, like 'privilege' to predominantly mean financially well-off, cis-gendered, able-bodied, or white, feed into implicitly upholding the same value systems we're trying to challenge and dismantle; and more.

Featured music: Fight for You by Raye Zaragoza

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