Sir Nicholas Winton, a Holocaust hero, discusses his motivations for saving over 600 children during the Nazi persecution. He reflects on human nature and expresses pessimism for the future, particularly in achieving peace in the Middle East. He shares his journey from religion to embracing ethics and expresses concern over the presence of weapons of mass destruction. The discussion also touches on preaching ethics, fear of death, and an ad-free listening option on Amazon Music.
Sir Nicholas Winton's motivation to save Jewish children from Nazi persecution was driven by a sense of goodness and the belief that it was essential to act on what one considered right.
Winton's determination to integrate the refugee children into the existing evacuee program, despite facing criticism from certain rabbis, demonstrated his prioritization of the children's safety and future over religious boundaries.
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Nicholas Wynton's Dedication to Helping Refugees
Nicholas Wynton, a British man with strong socialist and Jewish roots, found himself in Prague in 1938, witnessing the desperate situation of Jewish refugee families persecuted by the Nazis. With a commitment to action, Wynton spent months organizing the Kindertransport operation, which successfully flew 669 children from Prague to London. Despite the challenges and the interruption of the operation due to the outbreak of World War II, Wynton's determination saved countless lives. He humbly rejected the label of a hero, emphasizing that his actions were driven by a sense of goodness and the belief that it was essential to act on what one considered right.
Finding Homes for the Children: Overcoming Obstacles
Arranging for the safe transport of the children to England was only part of the challenge. Wynton and his colleagues had to find families willing to foster and care for the children. However, the task was made less complicated by the ongoing evacuation efforts during that time in England. Wynton saw an opportunity to integrate the refugee children into the existing evacuee program. Despite facing criticism from certain rabbis who opposed housing Jewish children in Christian homes, Wynton remained resolute, emphasizing that he prioritized the children's safety and future over religious boundaries.
Beyond Heroism: Ethics and Humanity
Wynton's extraordinary actions were not driven by a desire for personal glory, but rather by a commitment to ethics and values. He rejected the label of hero, emphasizing that his work was simply a matter of organizational effort. Through his lifetime, he continued his dedication to charitable work, helping the elderly and engaging in various humanitarian initiatives. For Wynton, a better world is one where everyone embraces ethics, promoting kindness, love, honesty, and decency. Despite the recognition he received, Wynton expressed a pessimistic view of humanity's ability to learn from history, highlighting ongoing conflict and the advancement of destructive technologies.
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Image: Sir Nicholas Winton, pictured in 2015 (Credit: Jeremy Selwyn/Evening Standard via Getty Images)
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