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(0:00) intro and sponsor

(1:20) introductions (who the f are we?)

(3:00) Antonio introduction

(5:12) Dan introduction

(6:50) Farcaster

(10:10) Erik introduction

(12:30) the life of the mind vs the life of the founder

(16:00) Being in the arena as a requisite to comment

(18:30) Why is the podcast named “Moment of Zen”?

(20:20) Erik is the Johnny Appleseed of group chats

(23:30) Group chat culture

(26:55) Reforming institutions vs building new ones

(29:30) Antonio’s intellectual evolution

(30:40) Europe is behind, but Antonio prefers it

(31:40) Antonio feels like a teetotaler who runs a bar

(32:50) LARPs

(34:00) Explaining Fukuyama

(37:50) What’s the best functioning institution today?

(39:10) Richard Hanania

(42:30) We don’t have a grand unifying projects anymore

(45:00) Should the China threat be the unifying narrative?

(48:05) Taiwan

(49:56) Explaining Zeihan

(1:00:20) When shit hits the fan, what country do you flee to?

(1:02:40) Why doesn’t Prince Harry get a paternity test?

(1:04:00) Europe vs America

(1:08:20) Dan is bullish on Europeans, bearish on Europe

(1:11:20) “Everything except the startup scene is better in Europe”

(1:15:19) Why is the US public sector so much worse?

(1:21:35) Why are we doing this show?

(1:22:32) “How about we just don’t get canceled?”

(1:23:55) Teasing upcoming guests

(1:24:34) Erik’s favorite ex-convict?

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