Leading Saints Podcast

Autism in Your Ward | An Interview with Liberty Kepford and Robert Johnson

Nov 1, 2025
Liberty Kepford, a youth Sunday School teacher and curriculum writer, teams up with her father, Robert Johnson, a retired K-12 special education teacher and behavior analyst, to delve into autism within church communities. They discuss their book, which sheds light on creating inclusive environments for Latter-day Saints. Topics include the autism spectrum, the need for disability specialists, and how to foster participation and belonging for individuals with autism. They share personal stories and practical advice for leaders to enhance support and understanding in their wards.
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INSIGHT

Autism Is Widely Diverse

  • Autism spans from nonverbal individuals with intellectual disability to highly gifted people with social struggles.
  • Tailor supports because the spectrum covers vast and very different needs.
ADVICE

Call And Empower Disability Specialists

  • Call a disability specialist and assign them to support families and individuals with autism in your ward.
  • Let them coordinate with teachers so parents can worship and leaders can teach effectively.
ADVICE

Prioritize Compassion Over Credentials

  • Recruit compassionate, consistent people as disability specialists rather than experts.
  • Focus on caring, routine, and learning on the job to create stable church experiences.
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