Polygon’s Comeback & Katana’s Impact On The Agglayer Featuring Sandeep Nailwal And Marc Boiron

Jun 23, 2025

Join Sandeep Nailwal, CEO of Polygon Foundation, and Marc Boiron, CEO of Polygon Labs, as they explore the groundbreaking Katana project and its potential to transform the blockchain landscape. They discuss navigating the shifting crypto jungle post-2022, emphasizing the importance of liquidity and interoperability in DeFi. The guests highlight the shift from speculative investments to user engagement, and the strategic importance of rapid decision-making in blockchain development. Dive into innovative yield dynamics and the future of purpose-specific blockchains!

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INSIGHT

Crypto's Rapid Evolution

The crypto industry's pace accelerates exponentially, making three months feel like a year.
Success now demands clear utility and revenue, moving beyond speculative meme coins.

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Long-term Product Value

Building great products with sticky users drives long-term value despite short-term token price volatility.
Fundamental user engagement eventually positively impacts token valuation.

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Fast Decision Over Caution

Fast, bold decision-making beats slow, overly cautious governance.
Embrace failures quickly to maintain momentum like a startup.

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This week, Marc Boiron (CEO, Polygon Labs) and Sandeep Nailwal (CEO, Polygon Foundation) joined Yano to dive into all the happenings at Polygon, their comeback plan, how the industry has shifted since last cycle, the best business models currently for chains and how Katana and the Agglayer will push not only the project, but crypto forward.

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