In Episode 57, Gregg welcomes Guy Sengstock. Guy is the founder and creator of the Circling™ Method, he has been facilitating transformation for individuals, groups and corporations internationally for more than 20 years. He is well-known in this corner of the internet as a philosopher, poet, and visionary. In this episode, Guy shares the story of how circling came about and then he and Gregg riff off of the relation between circling and psychotherapy, and the philosophy of circling and UTOK. Together, they circle around the concept of wisdom energy and offer some embodied reflections on how to cultivate it.