Economist Podcasts Ukraine 2.0: a revealing visit to Kyiv
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May 9, 2023 
Join Arkady Ostrovsky, presenter of the Russia podcast, Shashank Joshi, defense editor, and Rosie Blau, a China expert, as they delve into the heart of Kyiv. They explore the resilience of its citizens amidst conflict and the innovative military technologies emerging from Ukraine. The conversation shifts to China’s pressing demographic challenges, including a shrinking workforce and rigid immigration policies, while also shedding light on the curious tradition of rattlesnake roundups in America, blending culture with controversy.
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Kyiv's Return to Normalcy
- Shashank Joshi and Arkady Ostrovsky traveled to Kyiv and witnessed a city returning to life.
- Traffic jams, open streets, and a pushed-back curfew signal a shift towards normalcy.
Ukrainian Military Innovation
- Ukrainian military innovation is thriving, driven by widespread drone development and AI integration.
- Foreign tech companies are aiding Ukraine in building AI capabilities that many European armies lack.
Ukrainian Resolve and Pragmatism
- Despite fatigue, Ukrainians remain resolute, though pragmatic about potential future negotiations.
- They believe Russia will return to its subjugation goals, regardless of any ceasefire.