Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps LIVE PANEL: "Who Really Influences Our Politicians?" with Senators Bridget McKenzie & David Pocock, and MP's Allegra Spender & Helen Haines
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Nov 9, 2025 
Bridget McKenzie, Leader of the National Party in the Senate, shares insights on fundraising and regional interests. David Pocock, an independent senator and former rugby star, emphasizes the need for transparency in lobbying and the influence of corporate perks. Helen Haines, an independent MP, advocates for environmental reforms and community consultation. The discussion highlights the murky world of political influence, the importance of disclosure, and the challenges of balancing regional needs with conservation efforts.
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Fundraisers Create Hidden Access
- Political fundraising dinners create informal access channels between ministers and wealthy donors.
- This access can shape politicians' worldviews without formal disclosure or accountability.
Lobbying Is Necessary But Murky
- Lobbying is necessary for informed lawmaking because affected groups provide technical detail.
- The problem is the murkiness and lack of transparency about who meets whom and why.
Make Meetings Publicly Traceable
- Increase transparency by recording who meets ministers and when so decisions can be audited.
- Publish ministerial diaries and lobbying records so MPs and the public can judge influences on policy.