
Issues, Etc. Responding to Listener Email and the Issues, Etc. Comment Line, 11/4/25 (3082)
Nov 4, 2025
Listeners engage with thought-provoking critiques on penal substitution with Todd addressing common objections. Biblical foundations for propitiation are explored through scripture, revealing Christ's bearing of punishment. The differences between Lutheran and Eastern Orthodox views on atonement are highlighted. Meanwhile, discussions about the impact of betting and fantasy sports on fan engagement offer a fresh perspective on baseball. Plus, the hosts speculate on the St. Louis Cardinals' offseason strategies, keeping fans eager for the upcoming season.
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Scripture Clearly Teaches Substitutionary Atonement
- Todd Wilkin argues Scripture teaches substitutionary atonement as Christ bearing God's wrath for sinners.
- He cites Isaiah 53, Romans, 1 John, 1 Peter, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, and Hebrews as clear proof texts.
Study Scripture And Confessions Before Criticizing
- Learn substitutionary atonement from Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions before criticizing it.
- Wilkin recommends studying confessional references to propitiation and related articles to understand the teaching.
Why ELCA Pursues Broad Ecumenical Ties
- The ELCA often pursues ecumenical relationships because it doubts doctrinal unity is attainable.
- That low bar for unity explains its reconciled diversity approach and broad ecumenical ties.



