The Daily Beast Podcast E. Jean Carroll: My $83m Victory Over Smelly Trump
Oct 28, 2025
E. Jean Carroll, a trailblazing writer and women's rights activist, shares her remarkable $83 million victory over Donald Trump in defamation court alongside her accomplished attorney, Roberta Kaplan. They delve into the behind-the-scenes strategies that led to this historic win and discuss the emotional impact of the verdict. Carroll reveals how she plans to use her award to fight for women's rights. Kaplan also emphasizes why Trump's appeals are likely doomed, highlighting a broader message of empowerment and resilience for women facing powerful adversaries.
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Trump’s Courtroom Exit Looked Like Defeat
- E. Jean Carroll described Trump in court as a frail, apricot-makeup man who moaned, snorted, and even stormed out during closing arguments.
- She said his courtroom exit made him look guilty and signaled a turning point in their victory.
Two Trials, Two Distinct Verdicts
- Roberta Kaplan explained the two separate trials produced two separate verdicts: a $5M award and the $83.3M "big kahuna" verdict.
- She expects appellate steps and likely Supreme Court petitions but doubts the Court will take the cases.
Keep Focus On Facts In Court
- Roberta Kaplan advised centering the courtroom on facts, rules, and jury attention to limit noise and theatrics.
- She kept focus on evidence and avoided provoking Trump to let jurors decide on the record.