

Episode 511 Promo - Kamala, Kimmel & Kirk (w/ Catherine Liu)
Sep 22, 2025
The discussion opens with a provocative look at the ethics of political speech surrounding Charlie Kirk's death. Insights unfold on Kamala Harris's new book and its disconnect from reality. The hosts critique the backlash against late-night host Jimmy Kimmel for his comments on Kirk, exploring the implications of public condemnation. They also analyze how wealth influences media platforms and the chilling effect on free speech in academia. A lively debate emerges on the reactions to Kirk's legacy and the darker side of celebratory commentary.
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Complex Moral Stance On Provocateurs
- Catherine Liu wrestles with moral complexity, acknowledging some people provoke calls for violence yet rejecting that they deserve death.
- She insists people can hold abhorrent views without being killed.
Critique Of Posthumous Praise
- Briahna Joy Gray clarifies critics didn't demand agreement that Charlie Kirk deserved death.
- She criticizes liberal hagiography of Kirk after his death as grotesque.
Academic Freedom Under Strain
- Catherine Liu links campus speech repression to broader political silencing, warning academic freedom is eroding.
- She frames this as worsening constraints on criticizing Israel and other taboo topics.