Former CIA officer Douglas London talks about covert possibilities against the Russians with Jeff Stein. Former Cyber Command and NSA Chief Mike Rogers talks about the cyber side of the war with Jeanne Meserve.

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Admiral Michael S. Rogers, USN, Ret.

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