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Hiding In Plain Sight

Nov 25, 2021
Garrett Graff, author discusses top secret search for Al Qaeda nuclear bomb. CIA's former chief of disguises talks about her greatest capers. Topics include disguise techniques, use of miniature cameras in espionage, working in the Office of Technical Service, challenging making of 'Argo', capabilities of the Nest Team, and the Dragonfire story.
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  • The podcast discusses the evolution and use of disguise technology in espionage, including animated masks used by CIA spies.
  • The podcast reveals a secret operation by the Department of Energy's NEST to search for a stolen nuclear device in NYC post-9/11, highlighting the government's lack of transparency.

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The CIA's Former Chief of Disguises and the Mystery Nuclear Search

The podcast episode features an interview with John Amendes, the CIA's former chief of disguises, who shares stories about his career and the development of disguise technology. He recounts one of his legendary stories about meeting with President H.W. Bush in the Oval Office while wearing an animated mask. The episode also discusses the mystery of a Department of Energy Nuclear Emergency Search Team (NEST) being deployed to search for a stolen nuclear device in New York City after 9/11. The government kept this operation a secret from the New York City government and Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Historian and journalist Garrett Graff also joins the show to discuss the incident and his speculative non-fiction book, "Dragonfire," which explores the possible ramifications of a stolen nuclear device in a US city. The podcast touches on the evolution of disguise technology, the challenges posed by biometric hurdles and facial recognition technology, and the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.

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