Award-winning investigative journalist Boyce Upholt returns to discuss his article at The New Republic, "An Everglades Scientist on Trial in Ron DeSantis’s Kingdom: A powerful nonprofit, closely allied with the Florida governor, sued one of its former scientists for stealing trade secrets. What was it really after?" "Rotten History" follows the interview. Check out Boyce's article here: https://newrepublic.com/article/182364/everglades-scientist-trial-ron-desantis-florida Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access weekly bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell