Security Cryptography Whatever

Dual_EC_DRBG with Justin Schuh and Matthew Green

Dec 7, 2024
Matthew Green, a renowned cryptographer known for his passionate takes on security, joins Justin Schuh to dissect the controversial Dual_EC_DRBG. They debate whether this random number generator was a deliberate backdoor by the NSA or merely a colossal blunder. The conversation uncovers the ethical dilemmas of cryptographic standards, the NSA's questionable practices, and the erosion of public trust in secure communications. Their insights blend humor and serious analysis, illuminating the complexities of cryptography in today's world.
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ANECDOTE

The Initial Debate

  • Justin Schuh and David Adrian had a debate about Dual_EC_DRBG.
  • Justin, an exploits expert, didn't believe it was intentionally backdoored, sparking a larger discussion.
INSIGHT

Backdoors vs. Vulnerabilities

  • Exploits often resemble backdoors, making intent difficult to determine from a technical perspective alone.
  • Understanding the context and history of vulnerabilities is critical.
INSIGHT

Dual_EC_DRBG's Structure

  • Dual_EC_DRBG's structure resembles a keyed backdoor, allowing prediction of future outputs with specific knowledge.
  • This doesn't automatically imply malicious intent but raises strong suspicion.
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