Episode 13: Digging your well, the Staff Engineering Manager and managing burnout with Anjuan Simmons
Jan 20, 2024
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Anjuan Simmons, a software development team leader, shares insights on digging your well, the role of a staff engineering manager, and managing burnout. He discusses surprising challenges in managing managers, the importance of trust and curiosity, and strategies for assessing managers' performance. Additionally, he highlights the distinction between performance and management style, the role of problem solving, and the significance of clear focus time in preventing burnout. Finally, he provides advice for first-time managing managers, emphasizing the need to understand the leadership team.
The importance of mentors and peers for a smooth transition into leadership.
The significance of trust and varied leadership styles in effectively managing managers.
Addressing burnout through open discussions, advocating for time, and maintaining relationships for support.
Deep dives
Understanding the Path to Leadership
The speaker shares their personal journey into leadership, discussing how they started as an analyst and eventually became a manager through the consulting model. They reflect on the support they received and the importance of mentors and peers during this transition.
Managing Other Managers
The speaker talks about their experience managing teams composed of managers and shares insights on the challenges faced in this role. They discuss the importance of trust and people management skills in effectively managing managers and highlight the benefit of having different leadership styles within a team.
The Role of a Staff Engineering Manager
The speaker explains their current role as a Staff Engineering Manager for GitHub Sponsors. They discuss the responsibilities and scope of the role, including managing the team, collaborating with other departments, and advocating for time and space to mitigate burnout.
Recognizing and Addressing Burnout
The speaker emphasizes the importance of addressing burnout in the workplace. They recommend openly discussing burnout with managers and creating awareness of its components: emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, and loss of satisfaction. The speaker also suggests advocating for more time in schedules and maintaining strong relationships with leaders to provide support and help mitigate burnout.
Advice for First-Time Managers of Managers
The speaker advises first-time managers of managers to focus on building relationships with higher-level leaders and understanding the business context. They stress the importance of abstracting away noise and using these relationships to unburden the team from unnecessary distractions, allowing them to focus on their work.
Anjuan taught me a few new concepts in this chat such as the saying of digging your well and what that means, what the unusual title of Staff Engineering Manager is and also some practical tips on managing burnout, especially important for manager of managers. Listen to this episode to find out more.
Guest Biography:
Anjuan Simmons has led software development teams for over two decades, and he excels at shipping features that customers love while also managing healthy teams. Anjuan’s goal is to help everyone he meets become the best possible version of who they are meant to be.