How are we going to get there? How are we going to reach our goals together?  That was the question that started a love that would blossom into a success. Devale Ellis knew very early on what he wanted to do and once he started down that path, he attracted his now wife, Khadeen Ellis. As a couple, they created a plan and those steps led them to a co-written best-selling book, We Over Me, and their very popular podcast Dead Ass.  Devale joins us today to share what he considers to be a normal black love story.

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