Kuldrin's Krypt A BDSM 101 Podcast BDSM Etiquette Dom to Dom Communication Part 1-S03E30
Sep 19, 2021
01:15:00
Recorded: 1/31/2021 / Published: 9/19/2021
- In this episode of The Krypt Mayfair, the chatroom, and I, are going to figure out what BDSM Etiquette: Dom to Dom Communication is all about.
- Call in at 865-268-4005 to leave your question or visit the Krypt at https://kuldrinskrypt.com.
- Rules to Love By: ( https://inclusionwoodworks.com )
1: Safe, sane, consensual, and informed
2: KNKI: Knowledge, No Intolerance, Kindness, Integrity
3: “Submission is not about authority and it’s not about obedience; it is all about relationships of love and respect.” -Wm. Paul Young
- “BDSM Etiquette: Dom to Dom Communication Part 1-S03E30”
- This is a topic that comes directly from a listener and is one that, in my experience, isn’t really talked about outside of mentorships, really good Dominant training classes, or after the fact when there has been an issue.
- The listener, who consent to us using the messages as an example and wishes to remain anonymous, wrote:
“Question about Dom to Dom etiquette. I have a collared submissive that I allowed to play with a previous play partner (They were formerly D/s primary play partners, but she was not collared and did not need permission to play with others) This is the first time they have played since I collared my sub, it's been almost a year since they played.
We have never met in person only chatted on Kik, our communication has been respectful and the morning of the playdate I posted the rules to our group chat (the three of us) and then said Both of you have a wonderful time today. That's the last communication we have had. It's been 24 hours since they ended play.
Now to my questions @Kuldrin and others
1. What is the normal etiquette between Doms in this scenario?
2. Am I wrong for expecting some sort of Thank you for allowing him to play with my Submissive or something similar? I would definitely thank the Dom that allowed me to play with his sub.
3. If you were the other Dom would you have text anything after the playdate?
4. I was already going to send a Thank you for taking care of my bg and following the rules, should I send that now anyway.
I am open to any and all levels of advice input and/or criticism”
The dictionary defines Manners as:
1: Ways of behaving with reference to polite standards.
2: A way of acting, bearing, or behavior
3: The socially correct way of acting.
So what is a Protocol, and what is Etiquette?
- Protocol is defined as:
1: A code of correct conduct
2: The system of rules and acceptable behavior used at official ceremonies and occasions:
- Etiquette is defined as:
1: Conventional requirements as to social behavior.
2: The set of rules or customs which control accepted behavior in particular social groups or social situations
1: It sounds like you followed proper protocol. As far as etiquette, and keeping in mind I don’t know the time frame from start to finish, I would give a little longer notice on rules.
2: No, you are not wrong. However, some people are void of social/common courtesies.
3: Yes, I would have thanked you, assuring you all rules were followed or admitted to anyway I fucked up, and stated intentions of whether or not further play would be requested.
4: If you did not add a post-scene conversation between you and him in the rules, you can't hold him to that standard. However, I would send a message saying something to the effect of "I didn't have this in the rules because I didn't realize it needed to be but I am disappointed you haven't reached back out to me to say 'Thank you', give me an update of how things went on your side, or state intentions of future play."
Also, I would wait until it has been 48 hours and make it clear to my sub that she is not to say anything to him about it. That he either needs to come to the understanding naturally or receive that message from me at the 48-hour mark.
But that's just my two cents.”
- So, next week we are going to talk more in detail about general protocol and etiquette like “I’m new and this is my first time at a party or dungeon, do I introduce myself using a title? Do I call others by their title? What is the protocol for talking to a collared sub or slave that isn’t yours? How do I ask another Dom, Master, Owner, Handler, Tamer, to play with their charge?”
Important Links:
Full show notes: https://kuldrinskrypt.com/330
National Suicide Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
https://KuldrinsKrypt.com/Patreon
https://kuldrinskrypt.com/silentcommunication
https://KuldrinsKrypt.com/survey
https://kuldrinskrypt.com/TeePublic
Show Producers:
- Benefactor ($2,000/month):
- Pro Producer ($100/month): Buffalo_Max92
- Master Producer ($50/month):
- Executive Producer ($25/month) ShadowyFox, JunicornsAngel, Johnny Ferrell, Haru Webb, Rei Webb, slave Brendan, and Just_Call_Me_Ash
- Sr. Producers ($10/month): xEmeraldxWolfx, Roxiebear, Trouble113, Alexandria, ThatPlace: Oklahoma City, babylove&Sir, SortOutTheKinks, Master Gabriel, Daddy Steve, Sir Pent, TwistedTink&JustTommy, ArtKitten, AuthorMistressBlackrose, UpstateScCouple, Crystal Force, xxxLilyChaosxxx, CJ, Cali, PerfectlyThick, Thorn, Toredon, and Cap'n J
- Producers ($5/month): Kainsin, KJ, CIVLdisobedience, Hadea, Sir&Kitten, Raven, Raider69time, Atsila, PWB, MBRpoodle, LylacWine, Baddogbad, CozyCow, Arctic Foxglove, LilRedRose, Anomalous Mats, MsRedSin & AJRJ, Katnipmeow, WyldThyme&Deacon Sean, CheeryQuery, Ropestuff2, Rabbit, BurningRedHot, Sir Wolf ArchAngel, Subx13, CourtsDom, Anthony, BoundHydrangea, Gator, and Gizmo
- Jr. Producers ($1/month): K-2SO, Jeremiah, Morgana13, Brodie, The Gabbing Girl Time Podcast, and MilkyMilf
Become a show producer: https://KuldrinsKrypt.com/Patreon
Vendors I know, like, trust, and use: (None of these are paid sponsors of the podcast.)
- http://bdsmcontracts.org Coupon code: kuldrin20 for a 20% discount on all purchases.
- http://whippingstripes.com - My personal maker of most things leather and paracord impact toys.
- https://www.etsy.com/shop/TorridTimber - Fine fetish furniture and accessories
- https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheCraftyHedonist
- Tink’s Toys Fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2350280868612699 Fetlife Profile: https://fetlife.com/users/9885653?sp=3 *coupon for listeners (first purchase only) TinksToys13
- Dark Delights Shops: https://darkdelightsshop.com/ (Watch my product review of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbTsAuBKTy4 )
Contact info:
Email: MasterKuldrin@gmail.com
Fetlife Group: https://fetlife.com/groups/159275
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Twitter: @MasterKuldrin https://twitter.com/MasterKuldrin
Instagram: masterkuldrin https://www.instagram.com/masterkuldrin/
Patreon: kuldrinskrypt https://www.patreon.com/KuldrinsKrypt
http://kuldrinskrypt.com/contactresource
- In this episode of The Krypt Mayfair, the chatroom, and I, are going to figure out what BDSM Etiquette: Dom to Dom Communication is all about.
- Call in at 865-268-4005 to leave your question or visit the Krypt at https://kuldrinskrypt.com.
- Rules to Love By: ( https://inclusionwoodworks.com )
1: Safe, sane, consensual, and informed
2: KNKI: Knowledge, No Intolerance, Kindness, Integrity
3: “Submission is not about authority and it’s not about obedience; it is all about relationships of love and respect.” -Wm. Paul Young
- “BDSM Etiquette: Dom to Dom Communication Part 1-S03E30”
- This is a topic that comes directly from a listener and is one that, in my experience, isn’t really talked about outside of mentorships, really good Dominant training classes, or after the fact when there has been an issue.
- The listener, who consent to us using the messages as an example and wishes to remain anonymous, wrote:
“Question about Dom to Dom etiquette. I have a collared submissive that I allowed to play with a previous play partner (They were formerly D/s primary play partners, but she was not collared and did not need permission to play with others) This is the first time they have played since I collared my sub, it's been almost a year since they played.
We have never met in person only chatted on Kik, our communication has been respectful and the morning of the playdate I posted the rules to our group chat (the three of us) and then said Both of you have a wonderful time today. That's the last communication we have had. It's been 24 hours since they ended play.
Now to my questions @Kuldrin and others
1. What is the normal etiquette between Doms in this scenario?
2. Am I wrong for expecting some sort of Thank you for allowing him to play with my Submissive or something similar? I would definitely thank the Dom that allowed me to play with his sub.
3. If you were the other Dom would you have text anything after the playdate?
4. I was already going to send a Thank you for taking care of my bg and following the rules, should I send that now anyway.
I am open to any and all levels of advice input and/or criticism”
The dictionary defines Manners as:
1: Ways of behaving with reference to polite standards.
2: A way of acting, bearing, or behavior
3: The socially correct way of acting.
So what is a Protocol, and what is Etiquette?
- Protocol is defined as:
1: A code of correct conduct
2: The system of rules and acceptable behavior used at official ceremonies and occasions:
- Etiquette is defined as:
1: Conventional requirements as to social behavior.
2: The set of rules or customs which control accepted behavior in particular social groups or social situations
1: It sounds like you followed proper protocol. As far as etiquette, and keeping in mind I don’t know the time frame from start to finish, I would give a little longer notice on rules.
2: No, you are not wrong. However, some people are void of social/common courtesies.
3: Yes, I would have thanked you, assuring you all rules were followed or admitted to anyway I fucked up, and stated intentions of whether or not further play would be requested.
4: If you did not add a post-scene conversation between you and him in the rules, you can't hold him to that standard. However, I would send a message saying something to the effect of "I didn't have this in the rules because I didn't realize it needed to be but I am disappointed you haven't reached back out to me to say 'Thank you', give me an update of how things went on your side, or state intentions of future play."
Also, I would wait until it has been 48 hours and make it clear to my sub that she is not to say anything to him about it. That he either needs to come to the understanding naturally or receive that message from me at the 48-hour mark.
But that's just my two cents.”
- So, next week we are going to talk more in detail about general protocol and etiquette like “I’m new and this is my first time at a party or dungeon, do I introduce myself using a title? Do I call others by their title? What is the protocol for talking to a collared sub or slave that isn’t yours? How do I ask another Dom, Master, Owner, Handler, Tamer, to play with their charge?”
Important Links:
Full show notes: https://kuldrinskrypt.com/330
National Suicide Hotline: 1-800-273-8255
https://KuldrinsKrypt.com/Patreon
https://kuldrinskrypt.com/silentcommunication
https://KuldrinsKrypt.com/survey
https://kuldrinskrypt.com/TeePublic
Show Producers:
- Benefactor ($2,000/month):
- Pro Producer ($100/month): Buffalo_Max92
- Master Producer ($50/month):
- Executive Producer ($25/month) ShadowyFox, JunicornsAngel, Johnny Ferrell, Haru Webb, Rei Webb, slave Brendan, and Just_Call_Me_Ash
- Sr. Producers ($10/month): xEmeraldxWolfx, Roxiebear, Trouble113, Alexandria, ThatPlace: Oklahoma City, babylove&Sir, SortOutTheKinks, Master Gabriel, Daddy Steve, Sir Pent, TwistedTink&JustTommy, ArtKitten, AuthorMistressBlackrose, UpstateScCouple, Crystal Force, xxxLilyChaosxxx, CJ, Cali, PerfectlyThick, Thorn, Toredon, and Cap'n J
- Producers ($5/month): Kainsin, KJ, CIVLdisobedience, Hadea, Sir&Kitten, Raven, Raider69time, Atsila, PWB, MBRpoodle, LylacWine, Baddogbad, CozyCow, Arctic Foxglove, LilRedRose, Anomalous Mats, MsRedSin & AJRJ, Katnipmeow, WyldThyme&Deacon Sean, CheeryQuery, Ropestuff2, Rabbit, BurningRedHot, Sir Wolf ArchAngel, Subx13, CourtsDom, Anthony, BoundHydrangea, Gator, and Gizmo
- Jr. Producers ($1/month): K-2SO, Jeremiah, Morgana13, Brodie, The Gabbing Girl Time Podcast, and MilkyMilf
Become a show producer: https://KuldrinsKrypt.com/Patreon
Vendors I know, like, trust, and use: (None of these are paid sponsors of the podcast.)
- http://bdsmcontracts.org Coupon code: kuldrin20 for a 20% discount on all purchases.
- http://whippingstripes.com - My personal maker of most things leather and paracord impact toys.
- https://www.etsy.com/shop/TorridTimber - Fine fetish furniture and accessories
- https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheCraftyHedonist
- Tink’s Toys Fb Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2350280868612699 Fetlife Profile: https://fetlife.com/users/9885653?sp=3 *coupon for listeners (first purchase only) TinksToys13
- Dark Delights Shops: https://darkdelightsshop.com/ (Watch my product review of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbTsAuBKTy4 )
Contact info:
Email: MasterKuldrin@gmail.com
Fetlife Group: https://fetlife.com/groups/159275
Fb: Kuldrin Fire https://www.facebook.com/kuldrin.fire
Twitter: @MasterKuldrin https://twitter.com/MasterKuldrin
Instagram: masterkuldrin https://www.instagram.com/masterkuldrin/
Patreon: kuldrinskrypt https://www.patreon.com/KuldrinsKrypt
http://kuldrinskrypt.com/contactresource