In this episode, Allan is joined LIVE on stage at FutureCon Dallas 2022 by U.S Bank Senior Cloud Penetration Tester, co-author of The Pen Tester Blueprint, podcast host, and college instructor, Phillip Wylie. Phillip journeys into his past to share how he went from pro wrestler to pentester, gives writing advice to future authors in the field, explores the art of pentesting, and the best starter certifications for pentesters. Lastly, Phillip explores the best advice he’s ever received and the dangers of burnout. 

Key takeaways: 

01:27  Phillip's origin story - wrestling men and bears

03:04  The Pwn School Project

04:47  The Hacker Factory Podcast

06:55  Always a way to cyber

10:18  An opportunity to write

14:08  The Art of Pentesting

17:19  Getting square on terminology

24:42  The limitless child

27:25  The skinny on certs

30:23  Mentors

35:06  Back in the pentesting lab

37:14  When does threat modeling factor?

43:50  Coloring in purple

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