Two Indigenous leaders reveal how they reclaimed their health — and how that transformation sparked a movement across the Navajo Nation.

In this inspiring episode of The Exam Room, Chuck Carroll sits down with former Navajo Nation President Jonathan Nez and First Lady Phefelia Nez to talk about the health crisis facing Indigenous communities — and how they’ve taken action.

From personal weight loss and lifestyle change to large-scale policy reforms like junk food taxes and food education, this conversation explores how culture, tradition, and science intersect to transform lives.

🫀 100 lbs lost

🥬 Indigenous food revival

🏃‍♂️ A running president

📜 A plant-based policy movement

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