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Generative Engine Optimization - ChatGPT Search & Google AI Overviews, with Tim Cameron-Kitchen

Jan 30, 2025
51:58

In this episode of The New Frontier, Max is joined by Tim Cameron-Kitchen, (youtube) founder of Exposure Ninja, a leading digital marketing agency pioneering in Generative Engine Optimization (GEO). Exposure Ninja was among the first to explore ranking strategies for Google's AI overviews and how businesses can adapt to ensure visibility in AI-powered search experiences.

Tim explains how search behavior is shifting, citing statistics like ChatGPT reaching 300 million weekly active users by December 2024 and Google’s first-ever decline in UK user numbers, signaling a shift away from traditional search engines. He emphasizes that AI search tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google’s AI Overviews are increasingly replacing Google searches, making it crucial for businesses to optimize for these new platforms.Key strategies for Generative Engine Optimization discussed by Tim & Max include crafting concise answers, leveraging third-party content, publishing original data, and engaging in digital PR to secure mentions on authoritative sites. Tim also emphasizes the importance of structuring content for AI readability and ensuring key brand messages are embedded across the web.

The conversation wraps up with insights on how businesses can track and improve their presence in AI search results, including testing AI-generated responses about their brand and creating custom GPTs to enhance visibility. Tim underscores the need for agility in the shifting search landscape, advising companies to stay proactive in adapting their content strategies.


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