In this episode we speak with Isaac's permaculture teacher Darrell Frey, of Three Sister's Permaculture, and the Permaculture Institute of North America about growing up drinking out of springs, snacking on cucumber root and trout fishing in the forests of Pennsylvania, of meeting Bill Mollison and getting inspired to start his own permaculture project, building a bioshelter (and what that is.) We also talk about finding a fungus that eats thripps, aphids and whiteflies, and how he would culture it to keep the bioshelter free of pests. We talk about ecological succession, and how Goldenrod can keep a prairie in a holding pattern for decades by inhibiting the germination of tree seeds. We also talk about the amazing, ancient forest gardens of French Creek in NW PA, and about forest gardening. He's got two wonderful books out, one is Bioshelter Market Garden: A Permaculture Farm, and the other is The Food Forest Handbook with co-author Michelle Czolba. 

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