Join Raoul Pal as he sits down with Balaji Srinivasan in this highly anticipated re-release of their epic conversation from August 2022. Over two and half hours of deep, thought-provoking discussion, Raoul and Balaji explore the future of nation-states, the transformative power of the internet, the metaverse, and the evolving world of cryptocurrency. This Real Vision classic is a must-listen, offering unparalleled insights into the rise of network states and the inevitable shift towards globalized communities united by shared missions and digital currencies. Prepare to expand your mind and reshape your understanding of the future. Tune in for a journey into the next frontier of human organization.

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00:00 - Sponsor: Kraken OTC

01:00 - Introduction

01:36 - Network State Concept by Balaji Srinivasan

06:20 - Regulatory Challenges

10:29 - Digital Identity & Authentication

15:25 - Innovation and Life Extension Technologies

20:10 - Harmonization Impact Globally

25:37 - FDA vs. TSA Comparison

31:14 - Crypto Enabling New Zones

37:26 - Digital Frontier in 1991

43:34 - Cloud Continent Rise

49:23 - Digital Communities & Network Effects

54:23 - Centralization & Decentralization

1:00:09 - English-Speaking Internet Future

1:07:07 - Particularist Ideologies

1:13:00 - Technology and Harmonization

1:30:01 - Currency in the 2010s

1:35:16 - German Nationalism History

1:40:28 - Robotics vs. Demographics

1:45:14 - Founders and Innovation Communities

1:50:19 - Emerging Freedom Cluster

1:56:13 - Digital Nation-States Definition

2:00:28 - Network State Principles for Real Vision

2:05:21 - Modern Voluntary Guilds

2:10:21 - Scaling Network States

2:15:50 - Decentralized Zones & High Trust Communities

2:20:46 - Quantifying Community Connections

2:27:35 - Onchain Census for Recognition

2:33:35 - Conclusion & Final Thoughts

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